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Ricky Lee
October 10, 2010 10:13AM
Registered: April 2005
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Sure, I've been a-waitin' Waiting on this one for 28 calendar days. Well, it arrived yesterday afternoon, and sure 'tis the..

Darch Day-Date Field Watch

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..Darch day/date! Attention

I've seen varying reports on the size, but according to my vintage Brown & Sharpe calipers it's 34.5mm x 40.5mm, 9.2mm thick, with 18mm lugs. A bit small for some, but what I consider a nice "vintage size". One small surprise..


Darch Day-Date Field Watch

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..was the signed SS buckle. I've never noticed this in photos, nor did I catch it when I inspected Bro. Barber's Darch. Nice touch, though. Thumbs up! The strap is nothing special, though quite it is quite well-made compared to the nylon straps you find on $10 Wal-Mart watches. Alas, it's way too short for me.. Frowning I reckon it's max would be 7-1/2 to 7-3/4 inches (~ 19 Cm).

Looking at the the back side..


Darch Day-Date Field Watch

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..we find a signed screwdown caseback. Good news is, the caseback is very nicely executed indeed. The etching is crisp & clean, the spanner notches finely formed and plenty deep, the fit of the threads is top-notch, and the gasket is substantial. Bad news is, another surprise, this time not so welcome. "ALL STAINLESS STEEL BACK? I am confused

Now, I was under the impression that these watches had a full stainless case. Even after personally inspecting Bro. Barber's Darch, I thought so. Apparently I focused on the "All stainless steel" and overlooked the "back" part. Saw what I wanted to see, IOW. Oops! But maybe this is Chenglish? Perhaps it is a full SS case after all? I am confused The finish is a dead-ringer for beadblasted SS, after all. So I had to check. Wink Sure, I got out me trusty Starret layout scribe and gave it the scratch test! Long story short..


Darch Day-Date Field Watch

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..it failed I am crying - this is most definitely a base metal case. Further, as indicated by the LH arrow, there's a tiny spot on the lugs that the plating missed. Eek! Didn't notice that until I looked at the photo. Here's a blowup of the scratched area:

Darch Day-Date Field Watch

Now, I say "plating", but I'm not entirely certain the case is electro-plated. It wasn't exactly easy to get down to the base metal, but neither was it as hard as I'd expect from chrome or nickel electro-plating. In fact, the case may be finished with some class of PVD coating. All in all something of a disappointment, though not (for me) a deal-breaker. I expect a base metal case on a sub-$10 watch, right? Still, 'twas the "full SS case" aspect that caused me to look at these watches as The Deal Of The Century.. almost Too Good To Be True. And, sure enough, "If It Sounds Too Good To Be True.." holds up here. Smile

No bad news under the hood, though!


Darch Day-Date Field Watch

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A Miyota Watch Co. 2105, 10-1/2 ligne, no jewels and unadjusted, Japanese-made. Given the price-point of these watches, I half expected to find a generic no-name battery, but in fact it's a Sony. Thumbs up! Esslinger's carries this module..

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..but note that it will run you $9.75 for the bare movement, not including shipping. And this is one of those rare cases where Esslinger's price is lower than Otto Frei Eek!.. you'll drop a whopping $9.95 for a Miyota 2105 at Uncle Otto's. Smile


Darch Day-Date Field Watch

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The dial looks great to the naked eye, and is quite crisp even under modest magnification. Under the 14X loupe, however, it's only so-so. Not bad, mind you, but nothing special.

And if you're a lume freak, look elsewhere. The dial and hands (including the seconds hand) are lumed, and they are quite bright when charged with UV. For 2 or 3 minutes. Yeah, the lume fades very quickly. Frowning The hands are a little better than the dial pips, but even they are no match for a set of budget $4 hands from Uncle Otto.

But..


Darch Day-Date Field Watch

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..it sure wears Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr8! on ye skunk NATO! Thumbs up! And I got to say, I love the styling! WIS Honeymoon Sure, it's in no wise original, being a melange of the classic military field watch. But that style is a favorite with me, so a big Thumbs up!Thumbs up!Thumbs up!.

In conclusion, I recommend this watch wholeheartedley. Yes, the base metal case was a bit of a let-down. But it's excusable (again, expected) at this price point. And, of course, the price is the strongest point of these watches. You'll spend 2 to 3 times as much on a quartz day/date at Wal-Mart, and will sacrifice the screwdown caseback and (relatively) nice strap. And, come on! When careful shopping can net the watch for less than half the going rate of the bare movement.. well, that's pretty darned spectacular. Clapping!

Indeed, the highest recommendation I can give is that I've ordered several more, with an eye towards re-selling them. Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off This one cost me $8.98 shipped, but they can be had much lower. I got a couple of the cream dial w/ sand-colored strap models at a mere $4.38 shipped, for instance. And, sure, I blame those on Bro. Hans!

Thanks for readin', y'all!

Cheers!

-Ricky

Live long and prosper. Logical!

Edit1 - &#$%ed busted link! Oops! I am angry!
Edit2 - Subject title was formerly "WoooooooooHOO! 'tis a It's a happy day, a new watch arrived me boys, 'tis a It's a happy day, a new watch arrived!"

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Ricky Lee 5389 October 10, 2010 10:13AM

Excellent report Ricky,and congrats on that good looking and value for money watch! Thumbs Up smile (n/t)

Bock 184 October 11, 2010 10:30AM

Nice presentation Ricky Thumbs Up Marked for archive Thumbs Up (n/t)

Reto 127 October 11, 2010 12:30AM

Thanks Boss! Blushing

I edited the Subject Title to make it more "archive friendly".. Smile
Ricky Lee 190 October 12, 2010 07:48AM

Thumbs up! this brings me to a question that has been in my head for a while now >

How can anyone produce a watch and sell it that cheap? A watch, at that price, if it arrives in one piece and runs for a week is exceeding any and all expectations. I just don't understand how an entire watch can be built (for little more than the movement itself costs) and actually turn a profit.
greg honeycutt 142 October 10, 2010 04:34PM

Mass producing robots, zero advertising and...

I have learned that in Hong Kong, sellers are actually willing to work for small margins
Reto 151 October 11, 2010 08:18AM

Re: How can anyone produce a watch and sell it that cheap? Gif Attachments

Well.. I'm a Manufacturing Man, right? So I can understand it, intellectually, even if I am still amazed in me gut.

It's all about Economy Of Scale. Miyota churns out movements by the gazillion. Probably costs them all of 49-cents to make that 2105. Likewise, cases, crystals, crowns, spacer rings, and straps are purchased on the open market, from manufacturers who make 'em by the gazillions.

Sticky wicket is the dial, caseback, and buckle, all of which are signed. So Darch is directly contracting those items, obviously, if contracting them they are. More likely, those are the items (probably the only items) they're manufacturing themselves. DIY cuts out the middle-man, keeps the price low.

The burning question, for me, is how can they ship it half way 'round the world and STILL make a profit? Crazy! Loco!

Mine arrived in a permit-paid bulk-rate bag (Permit No. 4151). So no way to tell what the actual shipping cost was and, sure, that's why it took 28 days to arrive. Obviously Hong Kong Post is cheap and efficient. Still, this is the aspect that beggars belief, for me. 'cause I can tell you from experience that shipping a watch to Crete (Hey Bro. Yannis! Smile) via the least-expensive USPS rate will run you within a buck of what I paid for this watch in total, shipped. I am confused

This all leads me to believe that the total manufacturing costs of this watch are under $3. And probably well under! Remember, the $8.98 shipped price I paid for this one is nowhere near as low as it can go. There's still those 2 cream-dials Incoming!, for which I paid $4.38 per, shipped! Eek!

That I purely can't understand. Manufacturing a watch of this caliber, and shipping it from Hong Kong to Mississippi for $4.38 seems impossible. Crazy! Loco! Yet it obviously can be done. I am confused
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A watch, at that price, if it arrives in one piece and runs for a week is exceeding any and all expectations.
But with a Miyota Watch Co. in the engine bay, the bloody thing should run just fine for decades.
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greg honeycutt
I just don't understand how an entire watch can be built (for little more than the movement itself costs) and actually turn a profit.
Preachin' to the choir, mate, preachin' to the choir. Even if you did neglect to mention the "shipping half-way around the world" aspect. Wink
Ricky Lee 168 October 10, 2010 05:44PM

see, I really didn't take shipping into consideration >

it makes no sense to me. I don't recall ever shipping anything overseas for less than a 10 spot either.
greg honeycutt 114 October 10, 2010 06:19PM

These Hong Kong Darch sellers must be using a wormhole in the space-time continuum to ship their goods.

It's the only theory that fits the reality. Crazy! Loco! Rolling on the floor laughing me ass off!
Ricky Lee 1865 October 10, 2010 06:42PM

Much increased global shipping volume helps too (n/t)

Reto 124 October 11, 2010 08:20AM

A great deal on a good looking watch, Ricky.Thumbs up! (n/t)

Mark C. 132 October 10, 2010 02:33PM

Thanks Bro. Mark! The cream-dialed versions.. URL

..which haven't arrived yet, hold the distinction of being THE most inexpensive brand-new wristwatch I've ever purchased. Wink

The previous Budget Champ was this one and, trust me, the Darch blows that watch in the weeds! Laughing
Ricky Lee 173 October 10, 2010 04:23PM

SmileThumbs up!Ricky (n/t)

Mark C. 121 October 10, 2010 10:21PM

Re: WoooooooooHOO! 'tis a It's a happy day, a new watch arrived me boys, 'tis a It's a happy day, a new watch arrived!

Nice Ricky Lee where did purchase this one because I have not found the 24 hour dial version of this and I have a neighbor who is looking for one, he won;t wear a Russian still harboring ill feelings about the Cuban Missile crisis or something .....I am confused
KMJ1966 138 October 10, 2010 02:21PM

Re: Nice Ricky Lee where did purchase this one because I have not found the 24 hour dial version of this.. Jpeg Attachments URL

The 24-hour dial version is the only one I've ever found. I am confused If you found one that ain't, please don't hold out on us! Laughing
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..and I have a neighbor who is looking for one, he won;t wear a Russian still harboring ill feelings about the Cuban Missile crisis or something .....I am confused
Some folks is funny that way. Wink

Your best bets to purchase a Darch are probably HERE (vast inventory at that seller! Eek!) and HERE.

Mind you, Bro. Hans is the real guru with Darch links. Thumbs up! Perhaps he'll chime in. Smile

BTW, that first seller has this..

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..gorgeous blue model WIS Honeymoon that I haven't seen before. Drooling
Ricky Lee 169 October 10, 2010 04:15PM

Most places around here charge $10 to change a battery nowadays...

Getting a new watch for less than that is a real deal. The next time my kids need a watch, I know where I'm looking. Thumbs up!
JFK3531 137 October 10, 2010 02:07PM

Just so! A single cell runs $5.88 at Wal-Mart nowadays, for Pete's sake. Eek! And I meself..

..charge $10 for a battery change, if it's an uncommonly hard-to-find cell that I don't carry in stock.
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Getting a new watch for less than that is a real deal.
And, again, a bare movement will run you more than what these watches do. Worst case, twice as much! Eek! Crazy! Loco!
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The next time my kids need a watch, I know where I'm looking. Thumbs up!
Great idea! Thumbs up! Several sellers actually advertise these as "boy's size". Wink
Ricky Lee 142 October 10, 2010 03:53PM

A lot of watch for the money. A base metal case is forgiveable for that kind of money. (n/t)

Paul J Costa 136 October 10, 2010 02:03PM

T'anks Bro. Paul! So..

..how many have you ordered? Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off
Ricky Lee 118 October 10, 2010 03:46PM

I've been looking at them, I went on a recent watch buying streak and have to wait for now. (n/t)

Paul J Costa 110 October 10, 2010 05:20PM

But these are so inexpensive, if ye skip lunch one day, it's more than paid for. Wink

Sure, that's no trivial sacrifice. Eek! I admit I don't skip too durned many lunches meself. Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off
Ricky Lee 115 October 10, 2010 06:00PM

Looks fantastic for the price. Thumbs Up (n/t)

DJM 115 October 10, 2010 01:16PM

'tis. Thumbs up! I may do a Full Boat Point-by-point Smackdown Comparo against a Big Lots Watch, in honor of Bro. MCV. Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off

Hmmmm. Not a bad idea, actually! Wink
Ricky Lee 129 October 10, 2010 03:43PM

Great review Rickey ( without the "e". I am sorry) Thumbs up! (n/t)

Jan 115 October 10, 2010 12:02PM

Thank you! sir! Blushing And, no worries..

..I'm totally used to Rickey with an "e". Maybe 10% of my mail comes addressed that way. I am confused

But, after all, it is a perfectly valid alternate spelling. Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off
Ricky Lee 113 October 10, 2010 03:40PM

Great review! Thumbs up! Gif Attachments

The case not being made of SS is something I mentioned once already, I figured at the time that it might be made out of pot metal. The finish makes up for it though!

The 'lumed dial' version will probably surprise you, as that one keeps glowing for many, many hours. Downside is that the hands blend into the background after five minutes or so, which makes it impossible to figure out what time it is I am confused

You're almost as easy to train as my Border Collie - I supply an eBay link, and you press the 'Buy it Now' button. Nice! Want some more cookies links? Rolling on the floor laughing!
Hans_NL 122 October 10, 2010 12:00PM

Re: The case not being made of SS is something I mentioned once already.. Gif Attachments

I totally missed that. Oops!
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The finish makes up for it though!
It is a handsome finish. Again, a dead ringer for beadblasted SS. Only caveat, for me, is durability. We'll have to wait and see on that score, I guess...
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The 'lumed dial' version will probably surprise you..
{sigh} At some point I'll have to get one, I suppose. Wink
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You're almost as easy to train as my Border Collie - I supply an eBay link, and you press the 'Buy it Now' button. Nice! Want some more cookies links? Rolling on the floor laughing!
Guilty as charged. Oops! Laughing

It even works on $50+ watches! Eek! Just ask Bro. Marc! Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off
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Hans_NL
Great review! Thumbs up!
Thank you! mate!
Ricky Lee 158 October 10, 2010 03:35PM

Good for the price, but too small and they never impressed me much, anyways! Frowning

The one I had from Sportsmanguide sure looks the same and it just felt cheap. For $10, okay for some, but I won't be buying any, esp. in bulk!

Sorry, RL.
MCV 179 October 10, 2010 11:50AM

Re: The one I had from Sportsmanguide sure looks the same..

I recall us discussing that one. It went for, what? Like $15 or $20? Wink
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..and it just felt cheap.
You know, try as I might, I can't see it as "feeling cheap". With day/date and screwdown caseback, it actually feels quite upscale to me.. at least judged against it's natural competition down at yonder Wal-Mart. Laughing
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For $10, okay for some, but I won't be buying any, esp. in bulk! Sorry, RL.
No need to apologize. I am confused It's plain a Darch isn't for everyone - the sub-38mm size alone guarantees that. And, of course, many a WIS won't touch a base metal case under any circumstances, Snob that we can be. Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off

As far as buying in bulk.. well, I may be Crazy! Loco!, but 'tis crazy like a fox! Blushing If I don't make a fat profit retailing these to the Local Yokels I'll eat me hat. Tongue I fancy I know me clientele, and these are right up their alley. Cool
Ricky Lee 150 October 10, 2010 03:28PM

Re: Good for the price, but too small and they never impressed me much, anyways! Frowning

Now that's a matter of opinion, and taste. I love them to death, they look great on my small 17cm wrist, and they make great presents. You can't expect much at this price point. To be more precise: you can't expect anything at this price point, not even that the darned thing works I am confused When seen in that light, Darch made the seemingly impossible possible.

If we all would have the same taste and opinions, PMWF would be the most boring place on earth. That is why I enjoy this forum so much - all those styles, prices, one big candy store!
Hans_NL 164 October 10, 2010 12:12PM

Re: Now that's a matter of opinion, and taste. I love them to death..

Just so. Thumbs up!
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..they look great on my small 17cm wrist..
Oh, they're tailor-made for a Girly Wrist, alright. Laughing

Yet I fancy they ain't too small even for a Manly 21cm Wrist like mine. Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off
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Hans_NL
You can't expect much at this price point. To be more precise: you can't expect anything at this price point, not even that the darned thing works I am confused When seen in that light, Darch made the seemingly impossible possible.
Well.. I'm gonna expect that the darned thing work, no matter how low the price! Oops!

But, sure, I'm with ye in principle. Clapping!
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If we all would have the same taste and opinions, PMWF would be the most boring place on earth. That is why I enjoy this forum so much - all those styles, prices, one big candy store!
Well said, Bro. Hans, well said! Thumbs up!
Ricky Lee 137 October 10, 2010 05:09PM


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