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Ricky Lee

February 20, 2009 08:45PM
Registered: April 2005
Posts: 1,846 (2009-02)

I blame this one on that low-down, no account, yellow dawg Jeff Headrick, aka TakesALickin'. I am smiling...

Here's why...

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TakesALickin
Watch Review A Tale of Two Seikos, SND387P1 and SNA225
Posted: Wednesday, 20 July 2005, at 10:24 p.m.

If you’d told me last year that I’d be sitting here today writing a review of a quartz watch, I’d have said you were nuts. I was deep in the throes of my mechanical bias at that point. I had a quartz watch or two, but like most collectors, I had a preference for mechanicals. Some of us soften a little with the passage of time That’s what has happened to me.

What’s even crazier is that this review I’m typing will feature two watches, both quartz, and both watches were purchased within days of each other. I don’t know why I’ve made an about face on the issue of quartz, but I suspect it most likely has to do with a combination of price and convenience, coupled with a growing sense that I have exhausted a lot of the lower priced mechanical options. Further ventures into the collecting of mechanical watches will probably mean greater outlays of cash. Quartz starts to look pretty good when you look at it that way. It sweetens the deal even more if you can find interesting quartz movements. That’s what I managed to do with these two new Seikos, I think.

The first of the two is the Seiko SND387P1, powered by Seiko’s 7T92 chronograph movement. I’ve included a pic by the seller here that shows the watch with the bracelet that it’s sold with, because I know many guys like bracelets and would be curious what the watch looks like with the bracelet attached. I wasn’t crazy about the bracelet - I’m usually not - so I took it off immediately and attached the tire tread strap you see in my picture. The bracelet is a folded link design (meaning that I like it even less), but not unattractive. Still, someone who likes bracelets would probably want to replace it with a nicer solid link attachment.

The watch itself is a pleasant surprise. I ordered it because I wanted something to wear to work that wasn’t an homage, that was designed to stand on its own stylistically. While the SND387P1 definitely is military inspired, it doesn’t look exactly like any other watch I’ve yet seen on the internet.

The case measures 38mm across the face, 40mm if you include the crown. Although I wear watches that are larger than this, it’s similar in size to the Omega Speedmaster auto. For my line of work, it wears comfortably and is not obtrusive. The case has a nice bead blasted finish, and is stainless steel in composition. Its most attractive feature is the compass bezel. Although it doesn’t rotate, rendering it useless from a functional standpoint, it does lend a nice touch to the look of the watch.

The back is plain and unadorned, save for the Seiko name, water resistance ratings and model number info. It’s notched, and screws off for ease of battery maintenance.

So what do I really like about this watch? The movement! The 7T92 movement includes a sub-dial at 12 o’clock that times in 1/20th second increments. When you engage the chrono, the hand on this sub-dial begins spinning crazily, one revolution per second. The sub-dial at 6 o’clock is used both as the minutes and hours totalizer. How can it do both? It has two hands! That wasn’t evident to me until I ran the chrono for a couple of minutes the first time and saw the hands begin to separate from each other.

All the sub-dial hands, as well as the chrono seconds hand, are painted red. This really works well with the standard black/white military motif. It does make them a little hard to see in low light, but I blame my 48 year old eyes as much as anything else. The hour and minute hands are skeletonized. This is a first for me. I’m getting used to it, and I can see that it does make it easier to see the sub-dials when they’re partially obscured buy the larger hands. Lume is very good, and is used on the hands as well as the Arabics. The watch includes a date window at 3 o’clock, with the dates displayed in white digits against a black background. Overall, everything blends nicely and the watch has a very business like appearance. It’s easy to see that the watch would look great on a variety of straps, and with 20mm lugs, I can fit most of my strap collection on the watch in the coming months.

Downsides? The crown is a little smaller than what I’ve gotten used to with mechanicals. The bracelet, as previously mentioned, is a little cheesy. Water resistance is rated at 100m, but lacking screw down crown and pushers, who would want to tempt fate? Otherwise, that’s about it. For what I paid ($70 plus shipping), it makes a great addition to my collection as a daily wear workhorse.
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Ricky Lee McBroom
Grrrrrrreat Watch Review I've got a 7T62, too.. >>
Posted: Thursday, 21 July 2005, at 1:53 a.m.

..a model SNA113. Love the smooth sweep of the chrono second hand, too. You neglected to mention that the alarm can be used to track a second time zone. I use mine that way more than as an alarm.. usually I keep it set to GMT.

I have no problem at all with quartz.. indeed, I consider them to be superior to a mechanical, when considered purely from a practical viewpoint. So it should come as no surprise that I've been wanting a 7T92 for a while now. 'tis only my Inner Cheapskate that's stopped me. I've got three other chronos, and find it a little hard to justify a fourth. But if I find one as inexpensive as yours, I might not be able to resist. You got a great deal! Stole it, practically! Congrats!

-Ricky
Obviously, I was quite taken with the 7T92 module in general and the SND387 in particular. Yet somehow I never quite got around to taking the plunge. I intended to, and it was on my "short list" for a while. But time went by, and it kind of got put on the back burner. Ironically, I think it was partly because I was becoming more interested in mechanicals, the exact opposite of Jeff at that point. Still I never forgot it altogether...

Fast forward a few years, and one day I notice a co-worker sporting a spiffy new Seiko chrono. We get to talking, and turns out it's a 7T92-engined watch, the SNDA65;


Seiko SNDA65

Long story short, after getting to play with his chrono hands-on I was smitten. Wink, wink ... The fit and finish of the SNDA65 was typical Seiko, which is to say superb. The 1/20th-second sub-dial is fascinating to behold, and the hour/minute totalizer is pretty darned cool, too. A little research told me that, though the SND387 has apparently been discontinued, they're still readily available on eFlay. The Buy-It-Now prices ranged from ~ $80 to just over $100, but looking at completed auctions told me that, with a little patience, I should be able to score one between $60 and $70. Sure enough, a bit over a week later I was the proud winner in a Singapore auction at $68 + $25 shipping. Not exactly dirt cheap, but not too bad, I reckon, considering Jeff paid $70 +shipping 4 years ago.

Seiko SND387P1

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So how do I like it? Well, I could pretty much just nod to Jeff with a hearty "What he said!" Wink, wink ...

I will say that I don't find the bracelet to be "cheesy" at all. Sure it's of folded-link construction, but that's not a problem as far as I'm concerned. Yes, it can come off as a bit "rattly" compared to a solid-link bracelet. But it's nicely finished, comfortable, not a hair-puller, and it's a snap to resize. So it's A-OK by me.

Nor are Jeffs other 'downsides' a problem for me personally. The size of the crown seems fine. And I've taken my 7T62 chrono into the pool on many occasions with no problems, even though it lacks screwdown crown & pushers and is 100M rated. So I see no reason to expect less of the 7T92.


Seiko SND387P1

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About the only other thing I can think to add concerns a quirk of the 1/20th-seconds sub-dial. When the chrono is engaged the 1/20th dial will run for approx. 10 minutes then park itself. The sweep seconds hand and the totalizer keep running, of course. And I suppose "quirk" isn't the right way to describe it, since this is by design, and is covered in the manual. Sure freaked me out the first time it happened, though. Wink, wink ... It's a power-saving measure, I suspect...

Being a Seiko, you just know it's gonna have good lume, and it doesn't disappoint;


Seiko SND387P1 

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To sum up, I see the SND387 as an excellent value. From a practical standpoint I must admit that a digital chronograph such as this Casio is not only easier to read and use, but slightly more accurate. But the SND387 is certainly capable, and oooooh that styling WIS honeymoon, so it gets an unqualified Thumbs Up! from me. I am smiling...

I'll leave ye wi' a Wrist Shot;


Seiko SND387P1

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Sorry about the glare & grain. I am sad... The light was fadin' and, though I took five wrist shots, that was the best o' the lot. I am confused... But rest assured ye'll be seein' more photos of this one in future! Laughing!

Thanks for lookin', y'all!

-Ricky

Messages In This Thread

Is Happy Day! An impulse buy that's been percolatin' for nearly four years. Post contains photos Post contains linked URLs (views: 169)
Ricky Lee -- February 20, 2009 08:45PM
excellent watch ricky! wooo hoooo (n/t) (views: 1)
anjizkit -- February 21, 2009 04:47PM (views: 3)
Thumbs Up! for that watch and Post contains photos! (n/t)
John N -- February 21, 2009 03:21AM
Good choice, Rick. The 7T92 is a fine engine Post contains photos Post contains linked URLs (views: 10)
Chance -- February 21, 2009 01:33AM
It's the same ticker in my Orient quartz chronograph that I got for my birthday back in '05. (Or was it '06? Hell, I can't remember)

Photo by Colby May

Thank You Very Much! Colby. I didn't know Seiko was licensing the 7T92 to others, though.. (views: 1)
Ricky Lee -- February 21, 2009 12:58PM
..I'm certainly not surprised, since the 7T62 is quite widely licensed.

I remember that photo, though 'tis the praying mantis action figure that stuck and not the watch. I am confused... Scary! Laughing!

-Ricky

Nice Ricky. Thumbs Up! I am a fan of 7T62 and 7T92 movements. (views: 7)
Chris L -- February 20, 2009 11:56PM
I have owned in the past 2 Pulsars that used the 7T62 module. I always liked the movement.

I do really like my Citizen Eco-drive alarm/chrono a lot more though. No battery for starters, and the center second hand will work as a normal second hand until I put it into chrono mode. Has a very unique way to display the 1/20 second in chrono timing also. For the first second, the second hand does a full sweep around, then each second after it just ticks once per second. After you press the stop button, you then press and hold the lower button and the multi-function subdial will then display the fraction of second. Manages to add a lot of features without cluttering the dial.

Thank You Very Much! Chris. I have one of each module now... (views: 1)
Ricky Lee - February 21, 2009 12:32PM
..and enjoy them both. The 7T62 was one of the first watches I bought after succumbing to WISdom.

Your Eco-Drive certainly does sound like an elegant solution! Got a photo? Wink, wink ...

-Ricky

Congrats! Thumbs Up! I've been eyeing several Quartz Watch chronos as well. (n/t) (views: 4)
Dave Murphy -- February 20, 2009 11:53PM
Oh-oh, I see this post stimulating a whole lot more interest in this piece and forsee a whole lot of "I blame you's" coming! Thumbs Up! (n/t) (views: 5)
JohnnyT -- February 20, 2009 11:45PM
Thumbs Up! I am smiling (n/t) (views: 4)
SoCalWis -- February 20, 2009 10:31PM
You do realize that I also want one now ? and I only blame you for that Rolling on the floor laughing my a$$ off! (n/t) (views: 5)
Catalin -- February 20, 2009 09:39PM
Scary! Guess JohnnyT was right. Rolling on the floor laughing my a$$ off! Better move fast if.. (views: 1)
Ricky Lee -- February 21, 2009 12:27PM
..you're really interested in this particular model. It is discontinued, and while there are still a good many "in the pipeline", they're likely to go pretty fast. You won't be able to procrastinate for four years like I did, in any case. Wink, wink ...

-Ricky

Congrats! It's great to buy a watch you've been lusting for Wink, wink ... (n/t) (views: 6)
Micha -- February 20, 2009 09:28PM
Sorry, Ricky, it should have a solid link bracelet, the folded link stuff is too low-end! I am frowning (n/t) (views: 7)
MCV -- February 20, 2009 09:04PM
Also, I'd be remiss if I didn't point out that.. (views: 3)
Ricky Lee -- February 21, 2009 01:07PM
.. the SND387 is also available on an OEM Seiko-branded nylon strap. Looks to be a nice strap, too. And you can typically save yourself 5 to $10 by choosing strap over bracelet. I went with the bracelet 'cause.. well, just because. Wink, wink ... I already have a bunch of straps that'll fit the watch, for one thing. And I figured if I didn't go with the bracelet, I'd regret it later on.

And, honestly, as far as folded-link bracelets go, this is a good 'un. Better than the Chinese-made bracelets I use on a number of my watches, certainly, and light-years ahead of some Russian-made bracelets Scary! I've seen. Laughing!

-Ricky

But I'm a low-end kinda guy. Thumbs Up! Rolling on the floor laughing my a$$ off! (views: 8)
Ricky Lee -- February 20, 2009 09:26PM
While I'd be lying if I didn't admit that I prefer solid-link bracelets, I honestly don't mind folded-link.

To each his own, eh? I am smiling...

-Ricky
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