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A big "Bwa ha HA!" Incoming!, but also a tail-tucked-between-the-legs admission to Bro. honeycutt.

Ricky Lee
March 13, 2011 06:24PM
Registered: April 2005
Posts: 12,330 (2011-05)

Look what I've got incoming. Smile




In the end, you were right. I had to bend my $$ principles by ~ 33%.

However, that is still 66% less than your suggested minimum. Tongue

And this is coming from the same seller as my 6309-729A, so 'tis worth the peace of mind, to me.

In the interests of full disclosure: I had to cash in a "PayPay Thank You Coupon" to get that price, otherwise I'd have been looking at an astronomical $147.50! Eek!

Still, I am just happier'n a Slopped Hog! WIS Honeymoon


I like the no-nosense all-black bezel and..


..while the caseback looks to be a wee bit over-polished, it's not too bad.

To me, 'tis the very Acme of "Classic Seiko Diver". WIS Honeymoon

And I feel sure that the surplus Will Jean Super Oyster bracelet will fit like a dream. Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off

Cheers!

-Ricky

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A big "Bwa ha HA!" Incoming!, but also a tail-tucked-between-the-legs admission to Bro. honeycutt. Jpeg Attachments URL

Ricky Lee 185 March 13, 2011 06:24PM

Congrats, Ricky! Love the looks of that dial. Thumbs up! (n/t)

JFK3531 35 March 14, 2011 05:32AM

Ricky, this is an excellent choice ! I am very sure that you will really like the watch!Cheers! (n/t)

IF 41 March 14, 2011 04:50AM

Congrats & good job Ricky! (n/t)

Timemiser 28 March 13, 2011 10:11PM

You're quite the Seiko diver collector these days.
It is funny how the bracelet thing worked out.

When it (finally) comes in, (it will be a long wait) I request an updated pic of your Seiko collection.

Smaug 77 March 13, 2011 09:01PM

Ah, not really. Not compared to some here! This will be.. ah, the 7th Seiko in rotation. I think. Wink URL

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It is funny how the bracelet thing worked out.
Right! If it weren't for that durned bracelet Oops!, I wouldn't even be in the market for a 7040! Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off
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When it (finally) comes in, (it will be a long wait)..
I don't expect it'll be overly long. Remember, this is coming from the same seller (Jose Sotto / watchcooking) as the 6309-729A and that one took barely a week between trigger pulled and IHD. And that was around Christmas!
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I request an updated pic of your Seiko collection.
That I can handle. Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off

And, hey, Thank you! again for the bracelet. Smile It is, in a very real way, directly responsible for this watch. Thumbs up!
Ricky Lee 33 March 14, 2011 05:59AM

Congrats Ricky Thumbs Up (n/t)

Reto 25 March 13, 2011 09:00PM

i gotta get me one of those! (n/t)

dano0 41 March 13, 2011 08:32PM

Thumbs Up Congrats Ricky! :) (n/t)

Wen 33 March 13, 2011 07:48PM

Congratulations Ricky. Thumbs up! (n/t)

DanB 33 March 13, 2011 07:40PM

Finally. Now you can compare the cases. Smile (n/t)

Adam in NYC 37 March 13, 2011 06:56PM

my methods may be questionable, my results are not! Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off
congrats, and that is a sweet price....and a classic watch if there ever was one.

greg honeycutt 50 March 13, 2011 06:50PM

Thank you! mate. It works for me. Smile Jpeg Attachments

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..that is a sweet price..
Not spectacular but.. well, OK. Thumbs up!

I've been watching these pretty close (as you might have noticed Laughing) and the mean average price for a freshly-serviced 6309-704* seems to teeter between $160 to $175. Some do indeed top two bills. Heck, the more I've been watching, I've come to the realization that the deal I got on the 729A was pretty darned spectacular. Wink This slim-cased beauty, for instance..

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..fetched more than I paid for the 7040! Eek!
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..and a classic watch if there ever was one.
No argument there.. Laughing

Thank you! again mate.
Ricky Lee 35 March 14, 2011 05:48AM


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IHD! here at Shamrock Hollow.. and a much anticipated one!

Ricky Lee
March 24, 2011 07:19PM
Registered: April 2005
Posts: 12,330 (2011-05)

And, sure, it's the fat-case Seiko 6309, so y'all don't have to worry about me posting all the "Hey look at this one I missed!" posts any more. Laughing

And before I show you any photos, let me first apologize for them. They're not even up to me own modest standards.. Frankly, they're crap! Oops! But operating on the theory that a crappy photo is still better than no photo Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off here we go..



Click HERE for larger photo or HERE for supersized photo

I bought the watch from Jose Sotto (eBay ID "watchcooking"), the same seller from whom I purchased the 729A. As before the shipping was fast, the communication great, and the packaging above reproach. I can't recommend this seller enough! Thumbs up!


Click HERE for larger photo or HERE for supersized photo

As with the 729A the cosmetic condition is top notch. Literally flawless, as far as I can tell. Even the caseback, which looked a little sketchy in the auction photos, turned out to be A-OK:


Click HERE for larger photo or HERE for supersized photo

Somewhat to my surprise, the strap does have a cosmetic issue on the buckle:


Click HERE for larger photo or HERE for supersized photo

Note the sort of brownish-gray tarnish on the buckle. Oops! It's actually a bit worse than the photo might lead you to believe.

Otherwise, it's the same identical strap which came on the 729A. While it does bear branding, even the "Seiko Wave" logo..



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..it seems pretty obvious that these are not a legitimate Seiko product. Indeed, I'm not even sure these straps are of recent manufacture.. I'm thinkin' they are years-old NOS units that Jose scored in bulk for a great price. Wink But, hey, nothing wrong with that! As I never had any intention of keeping the strap on long-term, it bothers me not the least. And even if I had, the tarnished buckle would be a dead-easy (and cheap!) fix.

Now, full disclosure demands that I mention a couple of surprises that are a bit worrisome. First, the time-setting action is on the "stiff" side. Not outrageously so, mind you and, if I didn't have the 6309-729A on hand for comparison, I might not even have noticed. But it definitely takes a wee bit more torque on the crown to set the time than the average movement, and quite a lot more than the 729A. If I understand the design of the Seiko crown/stem assembly correctly, this could be due to friction between the stem and the crown tube. Maybe. Or it could be that the movement's keyless works is at fault. Either way, it's not something I'm going to worry about, but something that I will keep an eye on, lest it get worse.

The other problem, and this one's far more bothersome, is also a "stiffness issue". This time it is - you guessed it! - the bezel. Holy smokes! This is THE stiffest and hardest-to-turn bezel I've ever encountered, short of one that's totally frozen-up immovable. Eek! It gets a little easier once you achieve break-away and it starts to rotate.. but not much! And jeeminy cricket! I though I was gonna need a pipe wrench to break 'er loose, that first time. Crazy! Loco!



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But it sure does wear Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr8! WIS Honeymoon

And, aside from the peccadillos mentioned above, everything's swell. Again, you couldn't ask for better, cosmetically. And it's keeping acceptable time, even if a bit on the fast side - it gained 31 seconds in the first 24 hours. I'll have a go at regulating it eventually, as I did with the 729A, but I'll give it a few weeks to "run in" first. And since the 729A provided the main impetus for acquiring a 7040, I'll say a few words about the two in comparison. My 'first review' of the 729A is HERE.

First, I expected this 7040 to "wear bigger" than the 729A. At 44mm X 45.5mm X 13mm thick it is substantially larger than the 729A (which is 42mm X 45mm X 12.5mm). However, to my surprise, this is not the case! Worn back-to-back, they are very much in a class. I am confused The bezel is identical on each, of course, and I reckon its 41mm diameter helps mask the additional 2mm in case width of the 7040. In any case, the 7040 doesn't seem like a "big watch" to me at all! In contrast the Craftsman 80th Anniversary seems an absolute behemoth by comparison, even though its dimensions (45.6mm X 53.4mm x 15mm thick) don't seem much greater, on paper. Crazy! Loco!

And before you ask, Smaugster, yes I still plan on fitting the Will Jean Super Oyster bracelet. Smile However, I plan to follow the same routine as I used on the 729A. Laughing IOW 2 days on the resin strap, about a week on various and sundry NATO straps, then fit the bracelet. Hey, call me superstitious, but it worked sooooo well on the 729A... Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off

Stay tuned, you'll see more of this one in the days to come..

Cheers!

-Ricky

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IHD! here at Shamrock Hollow.. and a much anticipated one! Image Attachments URL

Ricky Lee 209 March 24, 2011 07:19PM

Congrats Ricky.Thumbs up! Gotta love the 6309 divers!!!!! (n/t)

Mark C. 23 March 26, 2011 07:56AM

Looks awesome, congrat's! Thumbs up!Thumbs up! (n/t)

Need_Omega 33 March 25, 2011 09:53AM

Congrats go to you at Shamrock Hollow Thumbs up! Thumbs up! Jpeg Attachments
Well done Thumbs up! Ricky! Thumbs up!

I got mine a few years ago, probably during the 7040 craze; most definitely after Kelly showed his masterpieces.
It came in a mangled state, from the Philippines, however it received a spa treatment immediately afterwards.

The bezel was also stiff, but I prized it off, and sprayed liberal amounts of sillicone spray underneath it. Some silicone gel would have been better I have since heard.
Anyways, it makes a difference to turning it.

Photo by AndrewP

AndrewP 62 March 25, 2011 06:14AM

Actually, I wouldn't mind being at the famous Shamrock Hollow....
...on this Friday night whilst the celebratory beers flow Smile Cheers!
Lume comps and all Cheers!

AndrewP 45 March 25, 2011 06:24AM

And you'd be most welcome! Cheers!
How are things in your neck of the woods? Since the disaster in Japan, the US media is not giving us updates on Australia and New Zealand. I hope the recovery is proceeding quickly, and that things will soon be back to normal.

As for the Seiko.. I may be late to the party, but at least I got there. Smile I'll certainly try to remedy the stiff bezel at some point, perhaps this weekend. And, yes, silicon grease is part of the plan. Wink

Ricky Lee 28 March 25, 2011 10:28AM

Thank you Smile Cheers! Jpeg Attachments
Sorry - didn't mean to make you think you were late on the 'craze'.
You just got yourself a classic & I hope you enjoy it appropriately. Smile

Would you believe we had Prince William touring both here and in NZ; a genuine bloke by all accounts, and he would have picked up quite a few new fans too, by the looks of it.
The world weather patterns plus the tectonic plate movements are testing the human spirit for sure. I guess at this stage I am worried about San Francisco being the next most vulnerable.

Also, this is another 6309 I had spa'd, with MKII parts. I only wear it on weekends, mostly when we go out to yum cha or similar. My 'yum cha' watch - how many folks can say they have such a dedicated watch Laughing :
Photo by AndrewP

(I bought 2 x 6309's at the same time, the 1st one I had set back to original; the 2nd is as above. They were, for the record, both 'basket cases' Smile)

AndrewP 42 March 26, 2011 05:35AM

To further clarify....
...I've also worn this watch overseas (in NZ); because the 12 hour bezel is - in my opinion at least Smile ) - the best way to tell the time in another timezone .

AndrewP 34 March 26, 2011 06:35AM

Re: Sorry - didn't mean to make you think you were late on the 'craze'. Gif Attachments URL
Shucks, no offense taken. I am confused I was a bit late, not only to 6309's, but Divers in general. Blushing

Divers are still not me favorite "genre" of watches, ye ken, I make no secret of that. But there was a time when I actually avoided them. You might even say that I "looked down on them". Oops! Couldn't understand what all the fuss was about, why seemingly everyone was Mad For Divers Watches.

But lately, within the past couple of years, I've come to appreciate them. Thumbs up! Not quite love them, mind, but appreciate them. Laughing And vintage Seiko Watch Co. Divers are almost in a class to themselves. Love is not too strong a word in their case, as I've come to see them as classic and iconic timepieces that transcend their "genre". WIS Honeymoon

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..Would you believe we had Prince William touring both here and in NZ.
I did see a report of that. Smile A certain sizable segment of the US is way into The Royals, and the media caters to that. Good on Prince William for using that to keep attention (and thus aid and relief efforts) in the public eye. Agreed he does seem like a bloke (or, as we'd say in Mississippi, a Good Ol' Boy Laughing).
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The world weather patterns plus the tectonic plate movements are testing the human spirit for sure.
Yes. And in Japan, the double whammy of the nuclear disaster. Eek! I am crying That, I fear, is going to get much worse before it gets better.
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I guess at this stage I am worried about San Francisco being the next most vulnerable.
It is a worry. Eek! To the point that some prophets of doom are saying that a major California quake is eminent. I'm not convinced of that, but there's no doubt that the entire west coast is vulnerable. The 1964 Alaska earthquake is still the second most powerful ever recorded, of course...
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..another 6309 I had spa'd, with MKII parts.
I love that one! WIS Honeymoon It ticks a lot of boxes for me: orange dial, sterile chapter ring, great hands...
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My 'yum cha' watch - how many folks can say they have such a dedicated watch Laughing
Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off
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(I bought 2 x 6309's at the same time, the 1st one I had set back to original; the 2nd is as above. They were, for the record, both 'basket cases' Smile
At some point I probably won't be able to resist a full-boat mod. Smile The highest compliment I can pay your orange-dialed example is that I'd go for a very similar look meself. Wink
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...I've also worn this watch overseas (in NZ); because the 12 hour bezel is - in my opinion at least Smile ) - the best way to tell the time in another timezone.
Agreed! At least as effective as an independent GMT hand, and much simpler and more cost-efficient to manufacture. And with a 12-hour bezel, you can turn most any diver into a GMT watch. Sure, 12-hour bezels don't get enough respect and attention, IMHO.

In any case, thanks for the thoughtful response Bro. Andrew.. always a pleasure to hear from you!

Cheers!
Ricky Lee 26 March 26, 2011 07:56AM

It is a very very good watch, Ricky ! Classic ! Enjoy it !Cheers!Thumbs up! (n/t)

IF 35 March 25, 2011 05:37AM

Thumbs Up Congrats Ricky! :) (n/t)

Wen 41 March 25, 2011 04:45AM

Congratulations Ricky. Great Seiko. Thumbs up! (n/t)

DanB 52 March 25, 2011 04:32AM

Congrats Ricky! The bezel could also be hard to turn due to a cracked crystal retaining ring.
Very common on the 6309's.

And the aftermarket dials sure gets better and better. Cheers!

Wycombe 48 March 25, 2011 02:48AM

Thanks for the tip! Thumbs up! I may check it out this weekend. The..
..weatherman says 80% chance of rain tomorrow, which will put the kibosh on the planned outdoor activities.

Bright side is I'll be able to sneak in some Caveman Watchmaking.. Laughing

Ricky Lee 34 March 25, 2011 10:32AM

Let's hope for rain then... Laughing (n/t)

Wycombe 41 March 25, 2011 11:56AM

Congrats Ricky Thumbs Up (n/t)

Reto 17 March 25, 2011 12:27AM

Congrats, Ricky!Between the two, I think I prefer the >>
>> look of the fat case for sure. Not sure about how it wears, because I don't have one. Hmmmm, Watchcooking, huh?

Dave Murphy 49 March 24, 2011 10:14PM

I think you'd love it! YMMV, but..
..to me, it seems to be the perfect size. Doesn't "wear" anywhere near as big as you'd expect from a 44mm case.

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Hmmmm, Watchcooking, huh?
Yup! Tell him Ricky sent ya.. Laughing
Ricky Lee 43 March 25, 2011 10:38AM

Congrats Ricky. So tell us which case you prefer. Smile (n/t)

Adam in NYC 47 March 24, 2011 09:00PM

Too soon to tell. Smile For the moment..
..I'm digging the "fat case". But that may just be Is Happy Day! Syndrome. Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off

I'll let ye know in a few months. Innocent

Ricky Lee 42 March 24, 2011 09:55PM

congrats. I agree with Chris on the bezel. I really can't comment on the strap though. (n/t)

greg honeycutt 45 March 24, 2011 07:42PM

Amazing what you find in the ditch next to your mailbox! Laughing
That stiff bezel might be a symptom of an aftermarket replacement part. The 007 that I bought to use for my Soxa project has a very stiff bezel also, and I'm certain that the entire watch was assembled from salvaged Seikos and fresh aftermarket parts.

That however was all fine by me as I only intended to mod the thing anyhow. wink

Chris L 39 March 24, 2011 07:38PM

Re: That stiff bezel might be a symptom of an aftermarket replacement part.
'tis a definite possibility. The watches J. Sotto sells do make use of aftermarket parts, he's quite clear on that. The dial, hands, and bezel insert are specifically stated to be aftermarket, for instance. And like the 729A, the lume is nowhere near as good as OEM Seiko. But I knew that going in.. Wink

The bezel itself.. I dunno. I think it's OEM Seiko, but who knows? It wouldn't surprise me to find that it's aftermarket. Ditto crystal & gaskets..

But he does a good job of integrating all this, to the point that I reckon only a bona-fide Seiko expert could spot it as being non-original. I certainly couldn't! Were I presented with this watch cold, knowing nothing of its history, I'd certainly assume it was all original. Oops! Smile

Ricky Lee 44 March 24, 2011 09:53PM

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