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Watch related news! It's a happy day, a new watch arrived Watch or Accessory Review A PMWF Exclusive - Introducing the IDENT NAV-01 Chronograph

Ricky Lee
December 04, 2010 04:36PM
Registered: April 2005
Posts: 12,214 (2011-05)

That's right, a new model from a new marque, revealed for the first time anywhere right here on The Poor Man's Watch Forum. Wink

So without further ado, the first "official" photo of the IDENT NAV-01 chronograph:



Look familiar? Like perhaps it shares DNA with the Trintec ZULU-05 prototypes I've shown you in the past, HERE, HERE, and HERE? Well, there's good reason for that! IDENT is a private label created by Trintec owner Brendon Nunes. As such, I believe it's appropriate to recycle the disclaimer from my ZULU-01 review:


While I am not officially nor financially affiliated with Trintec, I most definitely am a fan of their products, and consider the owner, Brendon Nunes, a friend. So, yes, I do have an informal affiliation. However, for that very reason I have consciously tried to keep this review unbiased and objective, and I believe I have done so. Indeed, no wristwatch is perfect, and it may well be that in compensating for my emotional attachment, I've been more unflinchingly critical of the IDENT than I might otherwise have been.

But you may be asking yourself "Why a private label brand?" I'll let Brendon explain in his own words:

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IDENT which is a brand I created for Ebay so it will not be confused as a Trintec. Not to play games but to try to differentiate it from Trintec so we have a little more freedom with pricing movements etc. I intend to create a separate ebay line if this one does well.

It's important to note, too, that this strategy will result in most, if not all, IDENT-branded watches being Limited Editions of a sort. This iteration of the NAV-01 is limited to 200 pieces, for instance. It's likely that similar versions will be produced, but with different movements, straps, etc. And, of course, it's likely that the best parts and features will eventually be re-combined into Trintec-branded models.

If you're a pilot, the brand name will make perfect sense. But if not, you may be wondering about the etymology of IDENT. Again, let's hear from Brendon:


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Naturally, I wanted something Aviation related. When flying in radar controlled airspace a pilot or aircraft is asked to identify itself to the controller by dialing in a 4 digit code and then Pressing the IDENT Button on the Transponder. The Transponder is a special type of transmitter, and the 4 digit code it broadcasts can be seen on the radar screen by the controller. Immediately upon activating the IDENT button, a blip appears on the radar screen to highlight the aircraft. Once the controlled sees the blip he confirms to the pilot that the aircraft has been Radar identified. The controller usually asks the pilot to Squark a code and in addition to IDENT if he cannot see the aircraft because of a cluttered radar screen. So a definite aviation twist and, I think, a unique Brand Name.

But let's get to the nuts and bolts!

The watch ships in a rather unassuming cardboard box. Nothing fancy, but it will certainly do the job of protecting the watch during shipping.



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The OEM strap is a black genuine leather number of good quality. The buckle is especially nice, having a sort modified pre-V silhouette, nicely etched with the IDENT logo. Very nicely etched, one of the best etching jobs I've seen, at any price. The strap will accommodate an approx. 8-inch wrist which, alas, means that it is only useful to me as a tourniquet. Eek! But that's OK! Wink I always keep plenty of NATO straps on hand for just such an eventuality! Laughing


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The case is full SS, measuring 42mm w/o the crown (47mm across the crown), 52mm across the lugs, and 15mm thick. The crown is 7.5mm in diameter, and features a double row of crisply executed knurling. It's a screwdown crown and the action is silky smooth, with plenty of thread engagement. The lug width is 22mm, using functional 2mm hex socket screwbars for strap affixment. The eight screws around the dial are best thought of as semi-functional: they are sure-enough screws, but are purely decorative. IOW this is not a split case, so the screws serve no structural purpose. I'm not sure of the exact composition of the black PVD coating, whether it is DLC or actual PCD diamond, but I can tell you that it is uniformly and flawlessly applied. Nor, of course, can I yet vouch for the durability of the coating. However, if it is in a league with the Trintec ZULU-01, then that would be "very durable indeed"! The ZULU-01 has been subjected to some fearful knocks Oops!, and shows nary a scratch or nick. Thumbs up!


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The caseback is a natural color, matte-finished screwdown, crisply machined and with more than average thread engagement. One nice touch is that it uses circular, full-contact spanner recesses. These offer great purchase for the caseback wrench, and are much more slip-resistant than the typical open-ended notches. The inside of the caseback is sterile, with no indication of company or country of origin. Claimed water resistance is 10 ATM, and after scrutinizing the details, I'd say that's conservative. Some might prefer a 200M or more rating but, after all, this is an aviation watch, not a diver. Wink


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The movement is a Miyota OS21, a 2-eye, 13-1/2 ligne chrono with date. It's a mostly-metal movement with no-jewels. It uses a central chrono seconds hand, with the subdial at 9 being the 60-minute chrono totalizer. The subdial at 3 is a 24-hour indicator. This leads to what I believe will be perceived as a negative by many, perhaps a serious one: no running seconds. I admit that I myself saw it as a negative at first, but after living with the watch for a few days I find that I don't miss running seconds at all. Indeed, looked at in a certain way, it's a plus - no running seconds de-emphasizes the fact that the movement is a quartz one. Until you activate the chrono, that is - the central chrono seconds steps in the normal 1-second intervals. Also worthy of mention is the wide date window. I've never owned one, and was a bit skeptical. Feared that I might not "get along" with that feature, frankly. But turns out it's not a problem for me at all and, indeed, I rather like the "different look" it gives the watch. Thumbs up!


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The seconds hand hits the chapter markers dead-on-the-money all the way around the dial, and the action of the chrono pushers is smooth and positive, with very good tactile feedback. Miyota rates the accuracy of the OS21 at +/- 20 sec/month, and battery life at 5 years (assuming 1-hour of chrono use daily). The battery is the common SR927W (395/399) which can be found at any Wal-Mart. In short, a solid journeyman movement that functions flawlessly, and should offer many years of trouble-free service.


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The lume is a bit of a mixed bag. It's plenty bright enough, initially, but doesn't have the staying power of world-class lume, a la Seiko. Indeed, even top-rank Swiss lume such as found on my Mido Multifort chrono will out-last it by a handy margin. The half-life is ~ 2-1/2 to 3 hours. It's still readable after 5 to 6 hours - but barely. Beyond 7 hours, forget it, it will have effectively gone dark.


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Note that the IDENT will be available only on eBay, at least initially. While alternate marketing strategies may eventually appear, they will not be for sale on the Trintec webfront. Nor are they ever likely to be, as that would place them in direct competition with the similarly-styled ZULU-05 models. (The ZULU-05 has not been released yet, but it's getting close!) The pricing is not firm yet, but the target range is between $200 and $300. It will, of course, largely depend on how the auctions are formatted, and on the reception the watch receives. And, sure, the formatting will likely be varied somewhat, in an effort to find what works best.


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In conclusion - this watch gets a solid 4-1/2 stars from me! The size is nigh-on perfect, being large enough to impart a commanding presence on the wrist, but not so large as to be absurd or "cartoonish." More importantly, the fit & finish are superb, easily on a par with some Very Rich Man's Watch! I've handled. The dial and case details hold up even under scrutiny with my 14X loupe, and it is a "clean build" with no dust or debris evident. Likewise the function is top-notch, with everything working as it should, and no annoying quirks whatsoever.

Sure 'tis no secret that I'm a big fan of the style, as a long-time fan of The Original Cockpit Watch, the Trintec 9060W. This piece takes the concept to a whole new level! Keep your eyes on eFlay. Wink In fact, I recommend a saved search using "IDENT NAV-01" as the appropriate keywords. Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off

Thank you!, dear Constant Reader, for your time and attention.


Cheers!


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-Ricky

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Watch related news! It's a happy day, a new watch arrived Watch or Accessory Review A PMWF Exclusive - Introducing the IDENT NAV-01 Chronograph Image Attachments URL

Ricky Lee 942 December 04, 2010 04:36PM

Great show Ricky and thanks for including the movement shot Thumbs Up Marked for "Watch Reviews" (n/t)

Reto 59 December 05, 2010 02:27AM

Seems as a good to very good one ! Cheers!
I think that even that quartz movement is more than O.K. if it could be distributed at a very very low price ! Seagull movement is a very good idea, too.
Besides the deeper technical stuff though, here is a friendly and easy watch with a very good presentation and review by Ricky.

IF 62 December 05, 2010 12:52AM

Nice write-up, Ricky!
The lack of running seconds wouldn't bother me in the least. I would prefer that to the 1 Hz seconds clicking. But sharing chrono seconds with running seconds, as MCV said, would not be acceptable to me. Is there a way to leave it just as a chrono seconds alone? The only quartz watch I can stand to wear more than a day is my Seiko without a seconds hand.

I don't like the wide date window. That is very trendy and gimmicky.

Everything else looks really nice..

Smaug 67 December 05, 2010 12:22AM

Re: The lack of running seconds wouldn't bother me in the least.
I seriously thought I'd miss running seconds.. until I started wearing the watch. Smile

As you say, it turned out to totally not be an issue.

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I would prefer that to the 1 Hz seconds clicking.
Proving, once again, that Great Minds Think Alike. Laughing
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But sharing chrono seconds with running seconds, as MCV said, would not be acceptable to me.
See my reply to Marc, below. The OS21 does not work that way.
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I don't like the wide date window. That is very trendy and gimmicky.
Ah, but have you tried one? Smile

I was on the fence about wide-date, too. But I like it - quite a lot! - at least in the specific case of the NAV-01. Gives the watch a sort of "smiley face" look Smile that I find most pleasing to the eye. WIS Honeymoon
Ricky Lee 83 December 05, 2010 03:20AM

Even on my phone, this thing looks Thumbs Up I 2nd your comments on mechanical Seagull et. al. :) (n/t)

Nuvolari 68 December 04, 2010 09:25PM

Yep, sure has that Trintec case style. I like it. Thumbs up! (n/t)

Robmks 75 December 04, 2010 07:30PM

Thank you! for the look, RL. "Ident" sounds better than "squawk". :D :D (n/t)

Dave Murphy 66 December 04, 2010 06:53PM

Ahhhh.. that's "Squark", Doc. Smile Similar but..
..subtly different. Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off

Ricky Lee 61 December 04, 2010 07:01PM

Re: Ahhhh.. that's "Squark", Doc. Smile Similar but..
Hey Thanks a million Ricky for an honest and thorough review. Also thanks to everyone for all your comments. This watch is the first of hopefully many limited editions I would like to produce, I really enjoyed doing this project and I understand that everyone is not thrilled with my choice of movements but I was after a certain look and I got it with this movement. I would strongly consider a Seagull movement if I would get the support in sales. Trintec will have a line up of 10 models by the spring of 2011 but I personally have many style ideas I would like to try out so you guys will help me to shape those ideas into the best products based on your feedback and comments.

Thanks,

 Brendon (Naviator)

Naviator 60 December 05, 2010 12:35AM

Brendon, Thank you! for letting us have the first look! Thumbs Up (n/t)

Dave Murphy 56 December 05, 2010 09:23AM

Re: Brendon, Thank you! for letting us have the first look! Thumbs Up
My pleasure Dave

Thanks,

 Brendon

Naviator 45 December 05, 2010 08:37PM

I am confused Never heard of "Squarking." But  >> Image Attachments
>> it's just like Brendon wrote. The controller will say something like "squawk five-one-four-two" which means that the pilot should set that 4-digit code in his transponder.

Since on your initial contact, you also told the controller where you were, chances are that he now sees you on his screen. But if he can't pick you out because of congestion, he will ask for an "ident" as well. So you push the "ident" button. That lights you up on his screen.

Here, a transponder is set to squawk 1200 which means "I'm just some dude cruising around using Visual Flight Rules." In other words, ATC has not assigned a code.

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Dave Murphy 62 December 04, 2010 09:27PM

Doh! Oops! I do believe you're right. Thumbs up! A confession.. URL
..I plugged "squark" into dictionary.com, and it came up as a valid word, so I figured you'd been smoking something (probably over at Bro. Marc's crib Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off).

But, obviously, I should have took the time to read the definition of the word. Blushing Smile

Yeah, "squawk" it is.

But, you know, SQUAWK might be a pretty good brand name for an Alarm Chronograph...

Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off

Ricky Lee 62 December 05, 2010 03:08AM

Not too bad, but needs a better movement, esp. for the price....
I am just not a fan of any of the Miyota "OS" series chrono movements. A Swiss ISA would be more at home here, as this watch reminds me somewhat of the Android Volcano chrono I had.

MCV 66 December 04, 2010 06:11PM

Re: I am just not a fan of any of the Miyota "OS" series chrono movements. Image Attachments
Any particular reason why? Wink

I own multiple examples, covering the OS10, OS20, and OS30 families, and I can find no fault with any of them.

{sigh} I really need an OS60. Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off

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A Swiss ISA would be more at home here..
Sorta like the Ronda 500 as used in the Trintec ZULU-01? Perhaps me memory fails me, but I distinctly remember you dismissing that as a "cheap $50 Swiss quartz". Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off

Irregardless, bear in mind the experimental nature of the IDENT brand. Chances are you will see an ISA-engined version before The Fat Lady Sings. My pet dream (are ye listening Brendon! Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off) would be a GMT using the Sea-Gull Watch Co. TY-2856 mechanical GMT.

Sea-Gull Watch Co.
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..this watch reminds me somewhat of the Android Volcano chrono I had.
Never heard of it. Luckily, Google Is My Friend...

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I prefer the IDENT by a wide margin.

The IDENT case planform is true to the "Cockpit Watch" ideal, where that Fossil is a mere hodgepodge.

Then, too, when you consider the "by Trintec" nature of the IDENT, it's a natural. I pity the poor fools that have blown Very Rich Man's Watch! on a Bell & Ross, thinking they have The Original, when $200 could have fetched them The Real Deal. Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off
Ricky Lee 129 December 04, 2010 06:56PM

I've had at least four, I believe OS 10s and I don't care for the way...
the chrono takes over the main seconds hand in the subdial to use as a totalizer and upon reset, you have to resync the second hand for the watch. It's been a while since I had one (sold 'em all due to my dislike of them) so I may not be exact in my memory of how they function, but I don't like them and won't buy a watch with one of them in it.

MCV 59 December 04, 2010 08:35PM

my OS80 does not work that way....
the running seconds becomes the fractional second hand. At the end of the run, when you hit reset, it parks at 0, but if you hit reset again it 'remembers' where it is supposed to be and continues as a running second. There is no need to resync (if I understand your comment correctly)

cesium 61 December 05, 2010 09:45PM

Re: There is no need to resync (if I understand your comment correctly) Jpeg Attachments
Thanks for your input! Thumbs up!

I thought Marc's description sounded a bit.. well, suspect, let's say. Wink "Losing synch" every time you use the chrono is a pretty serious gaffe, after all and, frankly, one that I just couldn't see Miyota making.

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the running seconds becomes the fractional second hand. At the end of the run, when you hit reset, it parks at 0, but if you hit reset again it 'remembers' where it is supposed to be and continues as a running second.
Perhaps Marc had an early & buggy example. Eek!

'cause I just know he's not the sort to neglect to Read The Manual, and thus not realize he must needs depress the "reset" button twice. Laughing

Anyway, in the spirit of "In for a penny, in for a pound", here's the layouts of the OS60, OS80, and OS90:

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Interesting one there is the OS90. I think I see how it works, but confess that I'm not 100% certain I am confused how the subdials at 12 and 6 o'clock are sharing duties there. Any OS90 owners care to chime in? Wink

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the chrono takes over the main seconds hand in the subdial to use as a totalizer and upon reset, you have to resync the second hand for the watch.
'cause 'tis for certain that no OS10 I've ever seen works that way. I am confused Nor the OS20 or OS30, for that matter. They are all 3-eye chronos with utterly conventional running small-seconds.

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Then I thought, "OK, maybe the OS11 is the oddball.."


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But it's a 2-eye, also with conventional running small-seconds.
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It's been a while since I had one (sold 'em all due to my dislike of them) so I may not be exact in my memory of how they function..
Yup, memory like a sieve, I'm afraid. Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off

I'm pretty sure what you're actually remembering is..

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..the OS22 and/or the OS25. Wink

I've never owned either of those, so you have the advantage on me...

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..but I don't like them and won't buy a watch with one of them in it.
I can see that. It is a bit wonky. Eek!

But no worries about the OS21 as used in the IDENT, they don't work that way. Smile

Cheers!

I like the 12-sided case format rather than a single square shape. Thumbs up!
When these go up to the bay, will they have a BIN price or strictly let the water find its own level?

Allan Zirlin 64 December 04, 2010 05:18PM

Re: When these go up to the bay, will they have a BIN price or strictly let the water find its own level?
Brendon plans to use the sales of the NAV-01 as a sort of eFlay Marketing Research Project. I suspect you'll see many, many variations in the specific structure of the auctions. That's what I'd do, and it's almost mandated if it is to produce meaningful results as a Marketing Research Project. Smile

So, yes, you may (probably will!) see some BiN auctions. I expect the price will be somewhere North of $200 on these hypothetical BiN Auctions, mind.

In the main, though, I think you'll see "the water find its own level".

What an eloquent way to put it! WIS Honeymoon

Cheers Bro. Zirlin!

Cheers!

Ricky Lee 67 December 04, 2010 05:35PM

Looks great, Ricky. Thumbs up!Congrats. (n/t)

Mark C. 66 December 04, 2010 05:08PM

Thank you! Bro. Mark!
Remember those keywords, and keep your eye on eBay! Smile

Ricky Lee 59 December 04, 2010 05:39PM

Wheels up Daddy Lee! Thumbs up! Nice Watch or Accessory Review Thank you! (n/t)

Riddim Driven 74 December 04, 2010 04:55PM

"Daddy"? I am confused I was not aware that I had any progeny unaccounted for! Eek!
Just to be clear - NO! You can't move back home 'til ye get on your feet again. Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off

Ricky Lee 65 December 04, 2010 05:07PM

Ye reap what ye soweth. Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off (n/t)

Allan Zirlin 69 December 04, 2010 05:28PM

That's what's scaring me! Eek!
Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off

Ricky Lee 67 December 04, 2010 05:40PM


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