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Ricky Lee
February 15, 2009 02:58PM
Registered: April 2005
Posts: 1,766 (2009-02)

Sweety Pie was busy with a project of her own yesterday so, after the requisite exchangin' of gifts and a little snugglin' and smoochin', I had a couple of free hours. What better way to stay out of trouble than a bit of..

..Caveman Watchmaking! WIS honeymoon Laughing!

The victim? Yet another Alpha Sub, another that I recieved from Wen. This one came sans dial and crystal, but did have hands installed (and installing hands on a movement without a dial has me more than a little I am confused.... Wen? Laughing!). I kept this one running on my bench for a couple of weeks after I recieved it, so I knew the movement was sound & keeping good time. The only thing holding me back was that I had no bezel for the case. Well, I recently made a parts trade with greg honeycutt, and the stars aligned in such a way that I got what I needed to lash up yet another Caveman Alpha. Or so I thought.. Wink, wink ...

It didn't turn out quite like I planned. Greg sent along a sub-style case, complete with bezel and crystal, so I planned to swap the movement into that one. It was not an Alpha case, though, and alas, it was ~ .5mm too shallow to accept the S.T. 22-jewel engine. I am sad... However, greg also sent a couple of spare bezels and, while they did not fit the Alpha case depth-wise, they were the correct diameter. Hmmmmmm... I am smiling...

So, 'ere's the Work Order;
Executive Summary - while the job wasn't exactly smooth sailing, I did Git R Dun. Wink, wink ...


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Perhaps the biggest disappointment with the Caveman Vostok was that I was about 5 or 6 minutes off in my alignment of the hour and minute hands. Note that I got 'em spang on this time. The date changeover is a bit early, mind you, at ~ 11:56. Still, not too shabby for a caveman. Wink, wink ...


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The sharp-eyed among you will note the lack of a seconds hand, and the long of memory will recall that the Caveman Vostok was the same. But since I had no seconds hand to fit the Vostok watch, you can't hadly count it. That was not the case here, though, and the pesky seconds hand was definitely the biggest frustration in the job, and the job's biggest disappointment. In my defense, the seconds hand was bent rawther badly when I recieved it, requiring some serious caveman straightening before the test run in December. But it did run. However, on my first attempt yesterday the seconds hand fouled the minute hand big-time. I am sad... I figured it must still be bent, and I simply didn't notice. So I took it all back apart and, lo and behold it was parallel to the adjacent hand, and did have sufficient clearance. WTH? I am confused...

So then I figure, OK, I didn't seat the minute hand all the way, and the base flanges are contacting each other. So I pull the seconds hand back off and, no, the minute hand is seated properly. I am confused... Scary! I am confused... Altogether I R&R'ed the *#%@ed thing something like 6 times, and never could solve the problem, so I declared the seconds hand a 'bush part' and gave up. I am smiling...

Of course, after sleeping on it, I realized prexactly what's the problem. Crazy, man! See, I used the same tool to set all the hands, a pin vise adjusted for a slip fit over the shafts. Worked like a treat on the hour and minute hands, but it "dished" the flange of the seconds hand. A forensic examination with the 10x loupe this morning confirms this. Arrrrrgh! Ah well, live and learn. I (briefly!) considered pulling it all back apart again, straightening the flange, and having another go. But at this point, I'm callin' the lack of a seconds hand A Feature Not A Bug.. aka Submariner Simplified. Laughing!

Sure, I took a lume shot!



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You observant types will notice something a bit odd here - no lume on the indices. Again, 'tis A Feature Not A Bug. Wink, wink ... The lume on the indices was so raggedy and uneven (remember, this dial was kicking around unprotected in a box of spare parts for God Nose how long) that I produced me X-acto and scraped the remainder off. Submariner Simplified, right? Wink, wink ...

Now for the pièce de résistance, The True Caveman Feature of this watch. Did I say greg honeycutt sent along spare bezels? Well, they were actually bezel inserts, not complete bezels. But not the thin ~ .3mm aluminum inserts that are OEM on Alphas (and actual Submariners, for that matter). No! These are hefty 1.2mm thick behemoths! Dunno where he got 'em, but they are the King Kongs of bezel inserts. Scary! How'd I attach 'it? Easy! The Caveman's Friend, 5-minute epoxy. I am smiling... I had my choice of silver or black, and chose the latter so as to not be too close to the original Caveman Alpha Sub.

Now, the fast thinkers among you are goin' "But Ricky! A bezel insert with no actual bezel...? I am confused..." You're absolutely right! This side view should make things clear, even for riders of The Short Bus. Laughing!



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Yeah, I know that big gap looks a bit wonky. Wink, wink ... But I do have A Plan. Which is, I'll simply get me a nice black rubber O-ring, 35mm inside diameter, stretch 'er into the gap & call it good! Thumbs Up! An.. ahh, unique solution I know. I am smiling... But also one I'm thinkin' will look quite pleasing. The unique part can't be denied... Wink, wink ... Once again, it could be viewed as A Feature Not A Bug, for it will mean that the crystal is triple-sealed; the OEM cystal gasket, the bead of 5-minute epoxy, and the external O-ring. Should be good for 4 ATM wi' all that! I am smiling...

And, hey, I'm only half-jokin'. The crown and caseback gaskets were in good shape, and I gave 'em a judicious coating of silicone juice. So I would in no way be scared to wash my hands while wearin' this Alpha. Laughing!

I leave you with a Wrist Shot...



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..and a list of Things I Learned from this project;
T'anks for lookin', y'all! Thumbs Up!

-Ricky


Messages In This Thread

Is Happy Day! St. Valentine's Day Watch Massacre. Post contains photos Post contains linked URLs (views: 99)
Ricky Lee -- February 15, 2009 02:58PM
Thumbs Up! Sound like fun, at least in the long run. I dig the hour markers and how they get along with the bezel numbers! (n/t)(views: 1)
Brian Uziel -- February 16, 2009 12:34AM
Nice work Ricky, but don't let the cave men at Geico on to your works. (n/t) (views: 1)
Mark C. -- February 15, 2009 10:41PM
Another great post Ricky! (n/t) (views: 2)
Reto_cell -- February 15, 2009 09:30PM
Ugh! Must we Cavemen forever be stereotyped like this? Post contains photos (views: 8)
Chris L -- February 15, 2009 06:39PM
First Geico, now PMWF. Lauging out loud! Lauging out loud!
Now if you don't mind, I have to pick arm-hairs out of my Jaèger LeCoultre bracelet.

Geico cavemen

Those Geico dudes are my heroes! Thumbs Up! Rolling on the floor laughing my a$$ off! Post contains photos (views: 7)
Ricky Lee -- February 15, 2009 08:35PM
So much so that I considered this Geico caveman as my avatar. Wink, wink ...

-Ricky
Ricky, you are the absolute, supreme, ultimate best caveman in the world!! Rolling on the floor laughing my a$$ off! Rolling on the floor laughing my a$$ off! I'll drink to that! Cheers! Applause! Thumbs Up! Post contains photos (views: 10)
JohnnyT -- February 15, 2009 05:41PM
No disrespect to Greg Honeycutt!
I am drooling Rolling on the floor laughing my a$$ off!
Re: No disrespect to Greg Honeycutt! (views: 4)
Ricky Lee -- February 15, 2009 08:10PM
Indeed no! Laughing!

And, hey, let's not forget Chris Larson. I am confused... I have it on good authority that he's been known to rip the lugs right off a watch case. Scary! Laughing! Wink, wink ...

-Ricky

P.s. - and Thank you very much Thumbs Up! I am smiling...

nice work, good post! Thumbs Up! i'm ALMOST inspired enough to tackle one of these 1/2 finished projects... maybe tomorrow (n/t) (views: 3)
jay_m -- February 15, 2009 05:16PM
Laughing! Laughing! You know, I must be part Neanderthal>> (views: 17)
Dave Murphy -- February 15, 2009 03:34PM
>>because as soon as I glimpsed the side view of the insert, I thought "No problemo, an O-ring will fill the gap". And as I read on, I was pleased to find out that you had already thought of that.

They say that great minds think alike. Probably primitive minds think alike as well, so I'm not sure where that puts the two of us. R O T F L M A O !!!!

Well Dun! Thumbs Up! Laughing!

Dave
Ontario NY, USA

Actually that's me >> (n/t) Post contains photos (views: 3)
Sfnewguy -- February 15, 2009 11:34PM
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Re: They say that great minds think alike. Probably primitive minds think alike as well.. (views: 5)
Ricky Lee -- February 15, 2009 07:59PM
Laughing! Just so! Laughing!

    Quote
    Dave Murphy
    ..so I'm not sure where that puts the two of us. R O T F L M A O !!!!

{grunt!} Ogg know...

Wink, wink ...

    Quote
    Dave Murphy
    Well Dun! Thumbs Up! Laughing!

Thank you! pardner!

-Ricky

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