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Seiko Watch Company Perpetual Calendar model 8F32-0181


Avatar WIS Adventures at Wal-Mart this evening. Post contains photos Post contains linked URL
Ricky Lee
May 25, 2009 06:22AM
Registered: April 2005
Posts: 3,213 (2009-07)

Well.. kinda sorta. We went out to eat, took in a movie (Star Trek Thumbs Up!), but in between we had a bit o' time to kill so I went into WM after a CR2412 cell for..

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..the Seiko Perpetual Calendar. The inside o' these things is 'most all battery! Scary!

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And the "adventure"? More like a Wild Goose Chase. Do not go to Wal-Mart seeking a CR2412. Trust me. Wink, wink ... Laughing!

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Indeed, turns out they're scarce even online.

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..but finally found one at watchbatteries.com for USD $5.92 shipped. Thumbs Up!

-Ricky
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WIS Adventures at Wal-Mart this evening. Post contains photos Post contains linked URL (Views: 138)
Ricky Lee -- May 25, 2009 06:22AM
Cool watch. I did a quick search ......... (Views: 12)
Robmks -- May 25, 2009 04:56PM
with www.ixquick.com, my favorite seach engine, and put in CR2412. It came up with lots of hits, even Reto's article on the watch and how to replace the battery.

Bob

That's pretty impressive! Thumbs UP! And what a great.. Post contains linked URL (Views: 6)
Ricky Lee -- May 25, 2009 06:46PM
..article in de Arkivs! Thumbs Up! Thank you! for writing it Reto, and Thank you! for pointing it out, Bob!

-Ricky

Be happy it's only supposed to be replaced every 10 years! >>> (Views: 18)
John Lind -- May 25, 2009 04:17PM
I have a Seiko Arcadia Perpetual . . . same movement. Also have Seiko technical PDF on the movement which includes detailed battery replacement instructions. The printing inside the watch back is slightly mis-leading (aside from the "snort" misspelling). You're not shorting the battery out in step 2, but connecting its + terminal to a specific point in the movement circuitry.

I had my watchmaker do the battery replacement (he works in a Seiko AD . . . among a few other very high end brands) after reading the full directions in the PDF. It's definitely more involved than normal quartz battery replacement and you must be very, very careful not to damage the coil in the process. There's also an insulator under the battery cell that must be positioned correctly. For me, it was well worth the cost (about 2X normal quartz battery replacement), which was still pretty low . . . well under the cost of a replacement perpetual movement had I bungled the job. The instructions are exactly correct that you don't have much time to get the old one out and new one in . . . otherwise you must reset the perpetual with day, month and year (in the 4-year Leap Year cycle) which is a real PITA to get right.

If you don't have a copy of the technical PDF for the movement, PM me and I'll send you a copy.

John

Hey John! Found the 8F32 Parts Catalog - Technical reference PDF and guess where... Post contains photos Post contains linked URL (Views: 14)
Ricky Lee -- May 25, 2009 07:09PM
Yup, Reto had it linked in his own impressive article.

I tellya, Reto..



-Ricky

Re: If you don't have a copy of the technical PDF for the movement, PM me.. (Views: 10)
Ricky Lee -- May 25, 2009 06:36PM
All I've got is the Operating Guide for the 8F32. I found that PDF right off.. Seiko has one of the best Guide libraries! But.. ah, no I don't have the detailed service guide. PM coming! Wink, wink ...
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John Lind
..slightly mis-leading (aside from the "snort" misspelling).
Laughing! Wink, wink ... Laughing!
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John Lind
You're not shorting the battery out in step 2, but connecting its + terminal to a specific point in the movement circuitry.
I wondered about that. Usually snort-circuiting micro-circuitry is a very bad idea. Scary! Laughing out loud!
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I had my watchmaker do the battery replacement..definitely more involved than normal..be very, very careful not to damage the coil..insulator under the battery cell that must be positioned correctly...well under the cost of a replacement perpetual movement had I bungled the job.
What are ye sayin', John? You don't think a Caveman Watchmaker can handle it?! I am confused... I am angry!!

Laughing! I am smiling... Wink, wink ...
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..you don't have much time to get the old one out and new one in . . . otherwise you must reset the perpetual with day, month and year (in the 4-year Leap Year cycle) which is a real PITA to get right.
That's perhaps the most worrisome part. I mean, I'm pretty confident I can do the job, just wondering if I can do it quick enough to prevent this pesky re-programming. Obviously I'd like to forego that, if possible. I am smiling...

Thanks for the tips John! Thumbs Up!

-Ricky

Yup, that's a hard battery to find, you paid the going rate! Have fun reprogramming the calendar, it's a PITA! Crazy! Loco! (n/t) (Views: 6)
MCV -- May 25, 2009 04:13PM
What exactly is snort-circuiting a battery?! Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off! (n/t) (Views: 8)
Dre -- May 25, 2009 02:21PM
Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off! That cell would get stuck in my nose! Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off! (n/t) (Views: 6)
Chris L -- May 25, 2009 02:49PM
Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off! Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off! Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off! I wondered if anyone would catch that 'snort circuit' line.. Crazy! Loco! Jaenglish! Scary! (n/t) (Views: 7)
Ricky Lee -- May 25, 2009 05:37PM


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Ricky Lee
May 31, 2009 02:50PM
Registered: April 2005
Posts: 3,213 (2009-07)

The fresh CR2412 cell arrived from watchbatteries.com yesterday. Is Happy Day! So, despite the dire warnings that 'twas a job best left to a Seiko Authorized Professional, I gave it a go. Well, guess what? Though I got the new battery in & the watch running, after 3 (three!) attempts at setting the calendar, I gave up in disgust. I am crying! I was just too tired and burned out to make it happen. I am sad...

But 8 hours sleep and a couple o' cups of coffee work wonders. I am smiling... No problemo this morning..


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..and the watch is set and ticking merrily away on me wrist even as I type. Is Happy Day! WIS honeymoon

But, man, I gotta admit this is THE most PitA battery change I've ever attempted. Scary! As John points out, luckily it's only gotta be done every ten years. Laughing!

The OEM bracelet, nice as it is, is too short & had to go. I've got it on a dark brown smooth calf WBHQ strap and..


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..while I don't have any photos of the combo yet, the fit is superb! Thumbs Up! WIS honeymoon

I love it when a plan comes together! R O T F L M A O !!!!

-Ricky

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Did some early-morning Caveman Watchmaking today, too. Post contains photos Post contains linked URL (Views: 71)
Ricky Lee -- May 31, 2009 02:50PM
I never had a doubt. Thumbs UP! (n/t) (Views: 8)
Dave Murphy -- June 01, 2009 12:19AM
Thank You! Your confidence in my ability is comforting, though optimistic, I fear. Laughing out loud! (Views: 9)
Ricky Lee -- June 01, 2009 12:35AM
I'm just glad you didn't see me cussin' the thing last night. I am smiling... If it had been anything other than a watch, I'd likely have flung it against the wall... Laughing!

-Ricky

What am I missing ... it looks like >>> (Views: 11)
Paul December -- May 31, 2009 04:11PM
...the entire back is one easy to access battery. Sorry, I think my springbar problem is much more difficult! Laughing!

The 64-step procedure that's required to reprogram the Parent Guided Content! calendar! Scary! Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off! (Views: 14)
Ricky Lee -- June 01, 2009 12:28AM
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Paul December
Sorry, I think my springbar problem is much more difficult! Laughing!
Solid endlink bracelets can be a challenge Scary! as I well know. I am smiling...

Persevere, my Good Man!

-Ricky


Avatar Nice Citizen! Thumbs UP! Almost enough to make me rethink my position on integrated bracelets. Laughing! As for me... Post contains photos
Ricky Lee
June 05, 2009 11:03AM
Registered: April 2005
Posts: 3,213 (2009-07)

..I'm having a tough time getting this one off me wrist.

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The Seiko Perpetual Calendar model 8F32-0181, minted in June of 1999, and part of the Indiana Clan here at Ricky Lee's Home For Wayward Wristwatches. I am smiling...

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Dunno exactly what it is about this one that grabs me so.. but it does! I am smiling... The superlative Seiko fit and finish has something to do with it, sure. Then, too, I'm a fan of the grab-N-go practicality of quartz watches, and the perpetual calendar complication only enhances that. Or maybe it's the 'right sized' 38mm X 45mm case. Or perhaps the fact that, for me, the styling strikes a near-perfect balance between "dress" and "sport". Heck, at first it might have been simply the novelty of..

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..wearing the watch on a truly comfortable leather strap, with enough "tail" left over to actually make the second keeper useful. R O T F L M A O !!!!

Whatever the reason, I'm just over the moon WIS honeymoon with this one! Thumbs Up!

Have a Grrrrrrrrrr8! Day !

-Ricky




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