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: Sometimes things are not what they appear.

Ricky Lee
June 13, 2012 09:30AM

Registered: April 2005
Posts: BANNED FOR LIFE
on June 13, 2012 (Ostensibly for making this very post, despite the fact that I first asked for permission.)

This one was dropped off on the doorstep at Ricky Lee's Home For Wayward Wristwatches a couple of months back. And yes, it's been seen here, but fleetingly and not in any detail..

G-Shock Riseman fake

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..for obvious reasons. Smile

Yes, this watch used to be an outright illegal copyright-infringing fake. Eek!

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Yeah, I was fooled for maybe 5 minutes. Blushing

But there's no Triple Sensor. No sensors at all! No actual Altitude, Barometer, etc. Didn't take Rocket Science to figure out it's True Colors. Whistle

So I got bored one evening, decided a little tinkering would be fun, and completely "sterilized" it.

G-Shock Riseman fake

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I removed logos and text in no less than nine, count 'em, NINE seperare locations.

G-Shock Riseman fake

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This involved the use of a sharp knife, mostly, and patiently scraping the logos away.

The main exceptions were..

G-Shock Riseman fake

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..the caseback and..

G-Shock Riseman fake

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..the buckle, both of which required the Dremel® tool.

Why go to the trouble? Well..

G-Shock Riseman fake

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..the darned thing is not only perfectly functional, but it fits me! When ye've a wrist like an ankle, that's never a given. Wears pretty good, too! Better than The Real Thing does, in most cases.

But the real reason for me personally is this:

Quote
William Gibson

..she checks her watch, a Korean clone of an old-school Casio G-Shock, its plastic case sanded free of logos with a scrap of Japanese micro-abrasive.

--Excerpt from "Pattern Recognition"

Sure I think of it as my "Cayce Pollard watch". Laughing

I do feel strongly that there needs to be a Public Record of this watch, for one very simply reason. And I feel certain that the following comments will not violate that, nor the stong PMWF stance against illegal watches.

Unlike the average fake R0lex, this watch was meant to decieve the buyer. Oops!

You can argue the former, but I have long maintained and remain convinced that 999 times out of 1000 the buyer of a fake R0lex knows he's buying a Fake aleart

.

Not so in this case. I know this watches "provenance" in some detail. A lass purchased it on eFlay as a gift for her boyfriend. Paid well over US $100 for it. She could very nearly have bought The Real Deal for what she paid. I am crying

He, being a WIS, spotted it as a fake in short order. But what could he do? Tell her? No. He wore the watch, mainly (probably exclusively) in her presence, and kept quiet. At the first opportunity (after nearly 2 years!) he divested himself of it.

What a sad tale. Frowning

Not only did she get ripped off, the watch caused him, my WIS Brother heartache and sorrow. That makes this thing more a more insidious fake than any fake R0lex (or JLC, VC, {insert you favorite haute horlogerie brand here}) ever was.

And guess what? They're still out there. Eek!

It took me a bit to find them, but sure enough. And they do not go for chicken feed. Rather, the price is just high enough not to trigger the average WIS' Too Good To Be True Detector.

Be aware. Be warned. Caveat emptor!

Do I feel guilty for wearing it? No. If nothing else, doing so and pointing out it's insidious nature may well prevent the sad tale told above from happening to others. And it is now sterile. Add in the Cayce Pollard Factor, and my concscience is clear. Innocent

Sláinte!

-Ricky

"Now he dug down deep, into the pocket of his tweed slacks, where he was keeping the Jaeger-LeCoultre. By itself, of course, so that nothing else would scratch it.

Messages In This Thread

Sometimes things are not what they appear.	Anonymous User	195	July 12, 2012 04:33PM
Sterlized watches are fine as long as people don't discuss where to buy them, as per Reto's decision. (n/t)	BobbyMike	23	July 12, 2012 06:01PM
We don't post or promote the wearing of s on PMWF (n/t)	Paul December	20	July 12, 2012 05:24PM
We certainly don't. What part of "totally sterilized" didn't you understand? And please note that himself personally cleared it a couple of weeks ago.	Ricky Lee	35	July 12, 2012 05:56PM
Fine, I don't need to agree with Reto or the on this >>> The watch was created as a The watch was sold as a Money was made on it as a Sterilized-or-Not it is a Posting pictures of it just promotes more of this There are so many great watches out there for people to buy and for this forum to promote... ...PMWF should reconsider their policy regarding stuff like this.	Paul December	31	July 12, 2012 06:06PM
I agree with you Ricky I mean i know I'm not as experienced as you guys, but...What's the main difference between an homage and a fake? Nothing, the only difference is the name on the dial. So if it's sterilized...i'm not seeing the issue. but....i should prob shut up haha	Lawrence Talbot	20	July 12, 2012 06:00PM
If you're really interested in the difference I can PM you, but let's not devolve RL's post into something an admin will have to close down. Reto specifically said RL could post about this watch. He did not say the forum was open to discuss Fake/Non-fake, etc. etc.	BobbyMike	23	July 12, 2012 06:05PM
Thanks BobbyMike. I do feel strongly that there needs to be a Public Record of this watch. (n/t)	Ricky Lee	53	July 12, 2012 06:45PM
Don't thank me too much RL, if Reto hadn't previously OK'd it.... I would have shut this down. You may mean well. I won't judge your intent. But discussions about fake watches cheapens the tone of the forum, one of the stated reasons several people PM'd to have you banned last time. I am going to lock this thread at this point. You've showed off your handiwork. If you feel locking the thread is unfair, please feel free to PM Reto. He can unlock it if he sees fit.	BobbyMike	26	July 12, 2012 06:53PM
that's the slippery bit, no? I don't know how many times the fake/ homage question has popped up, and the varied shades of gray on that topic, there is never an answer. I kind of agree with Paul and Reto at the same time. I know that doesn't make sense, does it?	greg honeycutt	24	July 12, 2012 06:21PM
gotcha haha. (n/t)	Lawrence Talbot	14	July 12, 2012 06:06PM

: Sometimes things are not what they appear.

Sometimes things are not what they appear.

Sterlized watches are fine as long as people don't discuss where to buy them, as per Reto's decision. (n/t)

We don't post or promote the wearing of s on PMWF (n/t)

We certainly don't. What part of "totally sterilized" didn't you understand? And please note that himself personally cleared it a couple of weeks ago.

Fine, I don't need to agree with Reto or the on this >>> The watch was created as a The watch was sold as a Money was made on it as a Sterilized-or-Not it is a Posting pictures of it just promotes more of this

There are so many great watches out there for people to buy and for this forum to promote... ...PMWF should reconsider their policy regarding stuff like this.

I agree with you Ricky I mean i know I'm not as experienced as you guys, but...What's the main difference between an homage and a fake? Nothing, the only difference is the name on the dial. So if it's sterilized...i'm not seeing the issue. but....i should prob shut up haha

If you're really interested in the difference I can PM you, but let's not devolve RL's post into something an admin will have to close down. Reto specifically said RL could post about this watch. He did not say the forum was open to discuss Fake/Non-fake, etc. etc.

Thanks BobbyMike. I do feel strongly that there needs to be a Public Record of this watch. (n/t)

that's the slippery bit, no? I don't know how many times the fake/ homage question has popped up, and the varied shades of gray on that topic, there is never an answer. I kind of agree with Paul and Reto at the same time. I know that doesn't make sense, does it?

gotcha haha. (n/t)

We certainly don't. What part of "totally sterilized" didn't you understand?
And please note that himself personally cleared it a couple of weeks ago.

Fine, I don't need to agree with Reto or the on this >>>
The watch was created as a
The watch was sold as a
Money was made on it as a
Sterilized-or-Not it is a

Posting pictures of it just promotes more of this

There are so many great watches out there for people to buy and for this forum to promote...
...PMWF should reconsider their policy regarding stuff like this.

I agree with you Ricky
I mean i know I'm not as experienced as you guys, but...What's the main difference between an homage and a fake? Nothing, the only difference is the name on the dial.

So if it's sterilized...i'm not seeing the issue. but....i should prob shut up haha

If you're really interested in the difference I can PM you, but let's not devolve RL's post into something an admin will have to close down.
Reto specifically said RL could post about this watch. He did not say the forum was open to discuss Fake/Non-fake, etc. etc.

that's the slippery bit, no?
I don't know how many times the fake/ homage question has popped up, and the varied shades of gray on that topic, there is never an answer. I kind of agree with Paul and Reto at the same time. I know that doesn't make sense, does it?