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An Is Happy Day! really brightens a Monday! Smiley Can anyone date this watch? Post contains Picture(s)

Posted By: Ricky Lee McBroom
Date: Tuesday, 6 June 2006, at 11:20 a.m.

Some of y'all might recall the 'Watch Incoming' post I made on this one:

Found on the Bay! seller's photos

If so, you'll also recall that I bought it mainly for the (busted!) bracelet. I have the same vintage OEM CITIZEN bracelet, but needed several spare links to get in on me fat wrist. Well, the watch arrived yesterday and, I am happy to report, the links worked just fine! Smiley Thumbs Up for this Watch Good thing, too, as, while the bracelet was an easy fix, 'twas also sized for about a 7" wrist. So now I have two, my original with 18mm endpieces, now sized for 8-1/4", and the donor with 20mm endpieces, repaired and sized for an aprox. 5-3/4" wrist (!).

The watch itself, though, was the big surprise:

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CITIZEN 'Seven' 21J Auto, model N-8200-R12052-Y

Sure, the seller said it was in "like new" condition.. but I've learned to take such bold Found on the Bay! claims with a grain of salt. This guy wasn't kidding, though! Is Happy Day!

While I'd stop short of calling it's condition "like new", it IS very, very good. Call it 9 out of 10. There are some fine, hairline scratches on the sides of the case, and also a couple on the crystal. But you've gotta look real close before you spot 'em!

How to wear it, though? I briefly considered repairing the OEM bracelet, but quickly dismissed that idea since, after all, the whole point was to use it as a spare links donor for my other bracelet. Hmmm. The only 20mm straps in the box are too short. What to do, what to do? Then I remembered that I had a cheapo Watch Made in China bracelet that might work and, sure 'nough!

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While the fit of the endpieces was near perfect in profile, as you can see from the 2nd photo, it's less so from the side. Note how they fall about a half millimeter below the curve of the lugs at the tips. Ah well, close enough for government work! Of course, that bracelet needed a couple of spare links added, too, and these cheap-a$$ bracelets are a royal pain to size. Yes, I bollixed it up a bit:

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Note the link below the RH lug. I am not happy! Press-fit pins in folded links.. what were they thinking! Eek! But, again, close enough. If I decide to keep it on this bracelet (and I might, I think it's a fairly good match), I can always straighten it out later.

This view also displays one nit I have with the watch - though the caliber 8200 apparently hand winds (I gave the crown one turn, and the movement took right off), the teensy crown makes it real hard to do so. No biggie, though, since the autowind seems very efficient. I wore it for a mere 2 hours before puttin' it on the nightstand, and it was still ticking this morning. Thumbs Up for this Watch

And speaking of the nightstand, when I turned off the light I got a very pleasant surprise:

The lume rocks! Thumbs Up for this Watch Thumbs Up for this Watch

And that's a bit puzzling. I am confused! 'twas my understanding that this watch was manufactured in the 70's. But I've never seen lume that old glow this well! That, and the overall good condition of the watch, lead me to believe that it may be of a much newer vintage than I thought.

What say you CITIZEN gurus? Can you tell me when this watch was manufactured? The complete markings are:

Dial - Citizen Automatic / 21 Jewels / N-8200-R12052-Y

Caseback - Citizen Watch Company / Water Resist / Stainless / 4-R02149 RC / 171296 / GN-4W-S

In any case, I'm most pleased with this li'l guy. Is Happy Day! While I thought I'd flip it, I don't reckon it'll be going anywhere! Smiley Laughing out loud! Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off!

-Ricky

Messages In This Thread

An Is Happy Day! really brightens a Monday! Smiley Can anyone date this watch? Post contains Picture(s) (views: 140)
Ricky Lee McBroom -- Tuesday, 6 June 2006, at 11:20 a.m.
I think the logo is more recent that 1970. I remember a bunch (views: 5)
John S. -- Tuesday, 6 June 2006, at 4:51 p.m.

of new Citizen automatic watches coming up for sale on Ebay about 4 years ago that looked like that one. Some had display backs, but most were solid.

Nice watch...congratulations.

Good buy Ricky! Thumbs Up for this Watch 2 things in one time. Smiley Post contains no message text (views: 2)
Bock -- Tuesday, 6 June 2006, at 2:49 p.m.
Congrats Ricky - you'll have enough links now to wear it on your ankle. Smiley Post contains no message text (views: 3)
Jammer -- Tuesday, 6 June 2006, at 1:49 p.m.
Congrats Ricky Thumbs Up for this Watch Thumbs Up for this Watch Thumbs Up for this Watch Post contains no message text (views: 3)
Hector -- Tuesday, 6 June 2006, at 1:42 p.m.
Thumbs Up for this Watch Post contains no message text (views: 4)
Fernando Campos -- Tuesday, 6 June 2006, at 1:04 p.m.
Nice watch Mr. McBroom, it definately "looks" 70's Post contains no message text (views: 3)
Mike Creasman -- Tuesday, 6 June 2006, at 12:31 p.m.
Congrats, looks like you got a goody. Thumbs Up for this Watch Post contains no message text (views: 3)
Robmks -- Tuesday, 6 June 2006, at 12:23 p.m.
NICE work with the bracelet! Thumbs Up for this Watch Smiley Congrats on the NICE CITIZEN Ricky! Thumbs Up for this Watch Smiley Post contains no message text (views: 4)
Chris Moy -- Tuesday, 6 June 2006, at 12:20 p.m.
Very cool! Thumbs Up for this Watch I'd date her, but my wife might object! (You left yourself open, sorry! Laughing out loud! ) Post contains no message text (views: 8)
Mike Lipphardt -- Tuesday, 6 June 2006, at 11:22 a.m.
{groan} Smiley Laughing out loud! Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off! Post contains no message text (views: 4)
Ricky Lee McBroom -- Tuesday, 6 June 2006, at 1:04 p.m.

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