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When does an homage become an outright FAKE! I think I smell a dead rat!> I'll tell ya> Post contains Picture(s)

Posted By: greg honeycutt
Date: Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 1:56 a.m.

I bought this ALPHA a few years back, never really wore it, so I gave it to a friend. He called last week and told me, due to a minor knock, the ALPHA logo fell off and a Audemars Piquet logo was under it. The ALPHA "A" still remains intact. So, yes, ALPHA rebadges FAKE! I think I smell a dead rat! watches, or at least this one. Well, in my effort to remove the ALPHA logo floating around inside the watch, I've really messed it up. Every time I try to put the crown back in, something goes wrong, and it won't go in properly. I told my friend, if I can't fix it, I'll just find another for him, cause he really digs it. Oh well Laughing out loud! Laughing out loud!

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When does an homage become an outright FAKE! I think I smell a dead rat!> I'll tell ya> Post contains Picture(s) (views: 346)
greg honeycutt -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 1:56 a.m.
I'm shocked! Shocked that gambling goes on here... (views: 27)
Ross Messing -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 12:35 p.m.
Come on, guys. Did anyone ever think that Alphas were made in some factory that had been set up to try to make a name for Chinese watches, but rather than use original designes, they'd use expensive Swiss ones?

If you honestly believed that, fair enough. But if you did, you probably thought Ken Lay had no knowledge of any wrongdoing, either Smiley

As for me - this changes nothing, save that if I actually want a fake rolex (and I don't), I could play scratch-and-win with my next sub Smiley

Seriously - I'm a little disappointed, but only because the rebadging is so sloppy / comes so late in the game - I thought the dials would actually be printed somewhat differently, rather than just printed one way, and then reprinted. Oh well...
-Ross
RE: As for me - this changes nothing.. >> (views: 1)
Ricky Lee McBroom -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 10:47 p.m.

Same here.

And, no, it really doesn't surprise me. What bothers me more than that there was an Audemars Piquet logo under the ALPHA logo is the fact that the ALPHA logo fell off in the first place! Smiley I only hope 'twas one hell of a knock! Laughing out loud!

} ..save that if I actually want a fake..I could
} play scratch-and-win with my next.. [Alpha]

Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off! Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off! Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off! Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off! Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off! Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off!

Makes me wanna get out a nickel and scratch on the Omegomage dial! Rolling on the floor laughing my a.. off!

Seriously, at least ALPHA does take the trouble to rebadge 'em. I don't see the problem. Just means I get a better price on the watch! The 'amortization' has been done on the FAKE! I think I smell a dead rat!s, sure, but my conscience is clear. YMMV..

And, lest we forget, not all ALPHAs are homages. At least no one's ever been able to cite 'the original' in this case..

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ALPHA Power Reserve Post about a GMT or 2nd Timezone watch

..and I've posed the question several times...

And I do love that watch, BTW. WIS Honeymoon! Laughing out loud! WIS Honeymoon!

-Ricky

Very interesting, thanks for sharing Greg Thumbs Up for this Watch Thumbs Up for this Watch Post contains no message text (views: 12)
Reto -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 7:53 a.m.
Not a surprise for me, but finally puts an end to all speculation! Smiley Post contains no message text (views: 10)
Paulo -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 7:47 a.m.
Very revealing. Post contains no message text (views: 11)
Sushirob -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 4:08 a.m.
Thumbs Down for this Watch! Thumbs Down for this Watch! Post contains no message text (views: 6)
Ching -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 4:01 a.m.
Bleck! Never liked those Alpha's anyways. Look very cheap to me. Thumbs Down for this Watch! Post contains no message text (views: 13)
swedeone -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 3:02 a.m.
So Alpha is the company that really makes Audemars Piquet . Laughing out loud! Post contains no message text (views: 23)
Robmks -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 3:02 a.m.
Laughing out loud! Post contains no message text (views: 5)
Kelly M. Rayburn -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 4:08 a.m.
OOPS! I made a mistake! Post contains no message text (views: 5)
Jeff T -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 2:58 a.m.
Hmm...nice to see my hunch confirmed. So anyone swearing off ALPHA watches now? Post contains no message text (views: 21)
Tom P -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 2:39 a.m.
Heck no I'm not swearing them, I'm just wearing them! Laughing out loud! I still think most of them are great for the money... Post contains Picture(s) (views: 55)
Todd22 -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 5:26 a.m.
Where else can you get a sub hommage that looks as good as the real thing for $30? Or perhaps a working day-date? Come on they come from China, where the reps are made, how can this surprise anyone. I figured all along they were made in the same factory as the fakes. Look at all the more legit brands that have clone watches.
...and that dear colleagues is why I have never bought an ALPHA Thumbs Down for this Watch! Post contains no message text (views: 20)
Chris L -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 2:35 a.m.
sheesh, Alpha or AP, that Royal Oaf is the ugliest thing around, (views: 60)
davec73 -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 2:19 a.m.
IMHO of course. That porthole and those screws have got to go.
Yeah, but a real APRO "City of Sails" is a beaut to see Laughing out loud! (views: 32)
Tom P -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 2:41 a.m.
Though not really my style -- too much bling, not enough bang Laughing out loud!
Impulse buy, we've all been there, and mistakes were made Laughing out loud! Laughing out loud! Post contains no message text (views: 17)
greg honeycutt -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 2:22 a.m.
No offense intended, Smiley Smiley Post contains no message text (views: 14)
davec73 -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 2:24 a.m.
None taken Dave. Thumbs Up for this Watch Smiley it is an ugly watch Laughing out loud! (views: 16)
greg honeycutt -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 2:29 a.m.
That doesn't surprise me, I still like them though, look at the submariner or yachtmaster... (views: 64)
Todd22 -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 2:14 a.m.
and you can see the three minute ticks under the 6 o'clock marker are lower where swiss-made would fit on a rep. So what though, it's still an hommage in my book. Look at Bulova, they sell the same day-date that I have from alpha with the Bulova name on it, alpha is not the only company doing this. Does it make it right? Well when the real McCoys cost $5,000 up it's ok in my book, that's just like wal-mart selling their brand of generic tylenol, of course people are going to make copies.
Alpha's look just like Rollies, etc. but you can wear them to work! Laughing out loud!
Actually, it does say Swiss Made under the six> (views: 49)
greg honeycutt -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 2:27 a.m.
I addressed that issue when I bought it. I was told then, that it was probably a rebadged FAKE! I think I smell a dead rat! and turn out it was. I don't know, and didn't say all ALPHAs are fakes of another watch. I only said that this one example is without question a rebadged FAKE! I think I smell a dead rat!....and the only ALPHA I've owned to give me a problem, and I've owned a few Laughing out loud! Laughing out loud!
Ha! Always suspected they did that, now we know for sure. Post contains no message text (views: 14)
Jittery Jim -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 2:13 a.m.
It looked funny when I got to see it, post-knock> (views: 56)
greg honeycutt -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 2:23 a.m.
the ALPHA logo was stuck under the 3 oclock marker Laughing out loud!
Yeah...who knew that Audemars Piguet made Alphas!? Wink Laughing out loud! Laughing out loud! Laughing out loud! Laughing out loud! Post contains no message text (views: 12)
Stef G -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 2:16 a.m.
I guess the speculation is finally over! Post contains no message text (views: 10)
Paul December -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 2:07 a.m.
That is peculiar! I am confused! Post contains no message text (views: 14)
Stef G -- Tuesday, 4 April 2006, at 2:04 a.m.



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